I can’t believe I was trying to defend him to my wife when he was fired from the BBC for slugging a producer.

Dammit.  As a 2018 Odyssey owner, now I want that new Sienna.  38MPG!

There isn’t one, but that’s what happens when you miss the point of Toyota’s lineup and ask a question to prove your point.

22 combined is good mpg?

I mean, they have the 3PMSF labeling.  So, it passes all the same test as a “winter” tire does.  

Yup.  And people don’t understand that driving like there is no snow, is the stupid part.  

I see your Avantime and raise you to the Espace F1. 1990s F1 engine in the middle of an Espace Minivan. Now THAT is bonkers.

But, he did say that.  He said C8.  

Is it because Fiat knows it will lose money but it helps Stellantis meet emissions requirements?

Stories like this are how I know religious republicans are just dumb and brainwashed.  The opinion of a mildly mentally handicapped and brainwashed person is not valid. 

Ew.  No.  That does not look great. 

I still have a soft spot for the first generation. Give me a 2005 in Red with the saddle color cloth interior.

I guess this is kind of like having your cake and eating it too. Except the cake is a stale Pepperidge Farm cake.  It’s not actually cake.

So.  Just rotate the outside wheels 90 deg.

But spinning out the leader on the last lap is fine? At least this is an attempt to go faster than someone else, not just an attempt to take someone out of the race because you are going slower.

Right, but none of those specs are what makes an SUV an SUV. 

The problem with the Corolla hybrid is that the Prius exists. The (base) Prius is cheaper (than the Corolla hybrid), plus you get a hatchback, nicer interior, and better fuel economy.

I’m getting Porsche 928 Vibes from the rear. 

I’m following along in this conversation, it’s painfully obvious so many people don’t actually know what Jordan Petersen is saying and just get sound bites from their preferred brainwashing machine/social media.

Yup. People around here are a little clueless about this car.