Joke's on them, there's Wi-Fi in the kitchen too!

You're right, thanks. My bad, it was late when I was typing!

Sorry! I kept it as vague as possible (I don't think it's too far of a logical leap given where we leave off in AFFC :) )

> Sansa doesn't do anything interesting in the books at this point

Speaking as a survivor, I think it's pretty offensive to victims of sexual violence to write a character whose sole purpose is to be raped and otherwise abused by a series of other characters, then make her second (or is it third?) assault storyline mostly about the redemption of another chraracter.

I mean, the scale I would use for parity between female vs. male rape is:

I wouldn't say it's 50/50 except in a few cases, but I have definitely noticed a helluva lot more equal treatment of the sexes in non-American shows.

Well then, I direct your attention to the fabulous French/European show Borgia, which is set in Renaissance Rome (a patriarchal society if there ever was one), yet treats its male sexuality the same way as its female sexuality.

Yes, exactly! My problem was the shoddy writing, not any token girl power bullshit. Literally the only reason Sansa would go back to Winterfell to marry Ramsay, a known psychopathic rapist (which Littlefinger should also have known, as a supposed master spy), was because the writers wanted to do the Jeyne Poole…

Oh totally, I think a lot of the internet arguments over this had some crossed wires between show-only people and hardcore book fans. It wasn't "silly feminist overreactions" (though there might have been some of that, idk), it was more about the general character assassination. Sansa's a pretty cool character in the…

Exactly what about this "world" indicates that there would be more female rape? The book has a decent amount of male rape (since we're counting), and the "Middle Ages" certainly had tons of it.

I mean, off the top of my head, pretty much all the Scandinavian, British, and French shows I've ever seen. For instance, Borgia.

Well it's a bit more complicated than that. Yes, they replaced her storyline with Jeyne Poole's, but the issue people had was that D&D gave Sansa, a main character who is being built up in the books to be more of a mini-Littlefinger, the victim storyline of a very minor side-character. They took all that Darth Sansa…

I don't understand how anyone can look at the general amount of female rape/nudity vs. male rape/nudity and NOT conclude that there's some gender-based fuckery going on there. Compared to non-American shows with equal amounts of sex & nudity, it's pretty obvious GoT leans heavily towards a male, hetero perspective in…

If it helps, the stage production isn't normally either satirical or shitty in the gender politics department. In the stage show, the T-Birds and Pink Ladies are pretty clearly working-class Italian/Polish kids (the names are a big clue), contrasted by the richer "squares" like Patty whatever-her-name-is. Sandy…

Sorry, I don't log in to Disqus very often so I missed this until now. But this convo is interesting so I thought I'd reply anyway :)

I think you edited your other comment, because I was replying to the statement "who knows, maybe he has a disability," as if having a disability excuses bad behavior. A disabled person saying bigoted things or groping strangers may deserve compassion depending on the circumstances, but that kind of behavior should…

Just FYI, disability doesn't give you a free pass to be an asshole. That's not how mental illness works.

> But sensitivity to difficult historical issues can feel sanitized and can be anachronistic.

Leaving aside the fact that Prince of Thieves can only very loosely be called a "historical" film, movies, just like any other thing created by people, aren't clinically accurate representations of the facts, but rather interpretations of them. Any movie about a historical period is naturally going to reflect the…