Remember Scott Peterson. He was at the search gathering as well.

I’m hoping I’m totally wrong but I don’t think she’s with us anymore. I think the baby’s father did this and may be on the lam or dead as well. This is statistically the most likely scenario. People don’t just not show up to their c sections when they cannot deliver naturally without dying. Horrible.

<sigh> The worst is when someone has no real point, but devolves to attacks on a person’s character or acts catty to other women who are expressing themselves intelligently. If you don’t want to talk about these issues, then don’t, but don’t try to say I don’t have a right to my opinion, right to say what I like, and…

I am a cis-gender woman who does not know any transgender people but does have discussions with those around me about being tolerant of and open to the realities that transgender individuals face. What is it I’ve been doing exactly that puts blood on my hands? Seriously just stop. Exaggerating and insulting people…

Yes, flat out dismissal. That's constructive isn't it? We need to silence anyone who cannot embrace the constantly changing PC attitudes that seem to define a generation that values being "connected" more than anything else This thread sounds like a mob mentality. There Will be dissagrement, and there MUST be.Volatile…

I don’t disagree with you, but the OP never said they agreed with the article full stop. Even if they did (which they don’t) the way to change someone’s mind isn’t by insulting them and harassing them. If you can’t have a thoughtful, reasoned discussion that does not attack, you aren’t helping. Telling me “there is…

Lol. I always get called a man on the Internet. It’s really funny. It wasnt a total derail; the conversation was about women, feminism, and expectations. Someone said I shoukdn’t have apologized for derailing and they were right; I should say what I want when I want.

I agree with you. There will not be any intelligent discussion of that piece here.

Yeah Stella, I second this. This is not a serious forum for these issues. Take a look at the comments at the Times - the comments there are much more thought out.

I think for my mom the answer would be a slight yes, and I’m a no but I don’t agree with her argument anyway so my answer doesn’t matter. Please nobody star these comments, I don’t want them in the black and eating up space where we are having a good discussion.

WOAH. I have said multiple times I DO NOT agree with my mother’s opinions. So back the F up. And I can see from your other comments you are just insulting and harassing the OP so unless you have something constructive to say, please go away.

That article spoke for a LOT of women. Including me.

This is exactly how I feel. I’m not diminishing Caitlyn’s struggle, or her womanhood, but her experience is different and she and other late transitioners need to own that.

I completely agree. I responded to another post on this thread about the second-wave aspect just now (my response is still in they greys as I write this - ugh). TDLR: I think second-wave feminists get offended by transgender women embracing hyper-femininity (skirts, heels, boobs) because their generation had to fight…

I have seen a lot of middle class white transwomen write blogs on how they are SHOCKED at how unsafe they feel after they start presenting as a woman.

I don’t think that piece is anywhere near that simple. When I read that piece I do see a number of flaws with the presentation and occasional content of the opinions being shared, but for the most part I do see some serious issues worthy of being raised. When a cisgender woman listens to a transgender woman discuss…

I want that stitched on a sampler and hung in my house.

I think it’s totally valid that you asked this question

Sorry for derailing, but this article on the NYTimes is super thought provoking and also talks about expectations for women.

“A girl can be friends with someone with a dick and not hop on it,”