I've driven a Model S P85, and while it was different enough to be considered a unique experience, I wouldn't call it 'hard'. It has a accelerator pedal, a brake pedal, and a steering wheel. They generally function the same as they do in regular gas-powered automobiles.

Seems contradictory to ban driver aids like ABS and traction control, standard on every new vehicle sold in America, and simultaneously claim that your cars are relevant to their road-going brethren? Why even bother pretending?

One of us...

If they're trying to develop technology that will eventually filter down to road cars, why not start with some technology that's actually in road cars?!?! Adaptive suspension, active aerodynamics, tires that don't spontaneously disintegrate, ABS, traction control, etc.

I'd be interested in reading that article/report as well, if you wouldn't mind linking it when you find it. I work in sales/operations for a good-sized CNC machine shop that does some supplying for defense contractors, medical companies, and others, and the conclusion that we've come to about the Kanban/just-in-time…

How does the ride quality compare with the 2015 WRX? Is it still stiffer and harsher?

Better car for the track maybe. For commuting, the WRX is probably the better bet. I just sat in a 2013 WRX today (buddy is buying one), and I was amazed at how much more comfortable the ride was than my 2013 STI....

Solution:

Can I answer 'neither' without sounding like a douche? Not trying to avoid the question, just don't like either of those vehicles.

This isn't the first time I've seen someone mention that the Supra's have a lot of 'character', but I don't understand what that's supposed to mean. What is 'character'?

What amuses me is the assumption by certain people that hitting a moving target from even hundreds of miles away is an easy feat, let alone thousands. You have to find your target first, which is more difficult than it sounds.

No STi since the GD platform was developed with motorsports in mind from the get go. So I am not surprised that the new ones are presenting the same issue.

Even if they do a mid-cycle refresh for MY2015, I can't imagine them dropping the hatch which they already have all the tooling for, and which constitutes a not-insignificant percentage of their sales. That is, unless they're trying to push them towards the Crosstrek instead, like they did with the Legacy Wagon and…

This is a simplistic and half-assed assessment, and even that is being generous.

Carp of the day?

All Subaru owners suck

What's with all the vitriol directed at subaru owners lately? This is the second time in a week.

The new STI chassis is supposed to handle much better than the old ones, if reviews are to be believed.

I would be willing to accept 2 out of the 3.

I agree.