they should absolutely get to plead their case. as i said i worked as a victims advocate. i’m just saying it has to be a balance between expert opinions and victims wishes
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Victim’s impact statements are standard during initial sentencing hearings as well. So they don’t just pop up only at parole hearings. I definitely take your point that victims shouldn’t make the decisions, but their impact should be at least considered. For better or for worse, the life of the perpetrator is forever…
No woman should *have* to put up with sexual harassment.
Isn’t that the same excuse the Nazis used to try and escape culpability. They were “just following orders”. Not good enough.
So what's your point? Even if we are all capable of smothering and then stabbing the shit out of another human being, we don't do those things. This woman did. Not in the heat of the moment or in self defense, but in fact begged Manson to let her participate in these murders. She absolutely deserves to be in prison…
Add to that any woman under 30 who has ever worked lol.
Not the women who defended the asshats doing this.
UGHHH. Fuck, I’m sorry. It happened to me too. Wasn’t the next day though, they made things super uncomfortable for a month or so, I assume in an effort to make me quit. When I didn’t, they waited until I took a day off and then told me I hadn’t gotten adequate coverage(I had) and fired me. After a formal complaint…
I went to HR exactly once in my 40 year career about harassment and was fired the next fucking DAY.
I want to see them trot out this article the next time a 16 year old african american rapist tries to rape like that article about the guy whose tonge was bitten when he tried a rape. Those comments weren’t at all arguing about age (and rightly so).
I’m a trail guide (please don’t ask where) at a job where there’s excellent protection against sexual harassment. But I too declined to report incidents where I was harassed - called a prostitute by a supervisor, a coworker groped my hips and was told I’d be a good part of a threesome. Later I did give a speech to my…
So because all of us are capable of evil, does that mean that people who actually act on it shouldn’t have to face the consequences? Maybe we’re all capable of cold blooded murder, but most of us never actually carry it out. Which is why we’re not in prison.
Mine are 10 years older, and they look younger, too. That’s why it struck me so.
It's not ageist to say that someone looks older than they are. It's ageist to discriminate against someone based on their age.
More than willingly. She was not picked to be part of the kill team, but pleaded to be included until Manson agreed.
I think rehabilitation should be the goal for the people in jail who have committed nonviolent crimes, or perhaps juvenile criminals with records of violence. People who were sadistic serial killers when they were of a legal age? What a gigantic risk to take to work towards releasing her from jail in the name of a…
FWIW Even after her decades in prison, people who’ve worked in prison around have said she indeed remains a dangerous, manipulative sociopath, and specifically “the only inmate that ever really scared them”. A lot of what she’s said in parole hearing as well seem to support that.
I don’t have a problem with her staying in prison. Rehabilitated or not, she is a murderer and was part of a really horrific set of crimes. I don’t know what her role was in the Tate murder, but what was done to her was completely sick. I have a difficult time believing anyone who would take part in that is capable of…