They're wrong. I've checked the author's sums. The figure for lentils is more than 5 times what it should be. I've given my working in another post.

That's because the figures are wrong. I've given my workings in another post. The lentil estimate is 5 times the correct one.

I take it back on the accuracy.

In order to answer my questions, I went back to the original report.

I think there are unit conversion errors in that chart. I strongly suspect those are dry weights for chickpeas and lentils.

Update, now I have a couple of minutes, 16 ounces is 454 grams.

where do you live that a 16 oz steak is so incomprehensibly exotic that you feel the need to keep remarking on it?

This is the problem - these grey areas. There are some things, areas where something is a simple illness, where I think, yes, that's probably fine.

I suspect they're not. The only way this makes sense if if we're talking about dry weight of lentils.

Chickpeas don't require a lot of water for cultivation. My guess is that this is for dry chickpeas, making the whole chart less than balanced. Someone might eat a half-kilo steak (the very thought makes me sick, but I'll take her word for it), but nobody is going to eat half a kilo of chickpeas, certainly not after…

I eat three of those (not soya burgers) as major protein sources.

With lentils and chickpeas, is that dry weight or wet weight? I'm sure there are people who would eat half a kilo of beef at a sitting - as you say, you (apparently) see 16oz steaks, but nobody is going to eat half a kilo of even wet lentils at a meal. Half a kilo of dry lentils, cooked, is a pretty big pot.

I am an Aspie, so I hope you understand I have some strong views on this.

OK. Let's take a case.

Define "problems".

So, your argument is that we should experiment on living, breathing human beings without consent?

The point is that you are still tampering with quality of life without consent.

We have something over 7.3 humans on the planet, which is three times what it can sustainably hold.

The trouble is, this gives the child no choice at all. You are making decisions the child has every right to hate you for later. ALS is one thing. Some ideal that the parents hold is another.

Is Nature flyoverland politics, or have you just set up a straw man? I think it's a scarecrow!