Their government, anyway.

It pays to be a gardener. And a poisoner.

Oh, I think if you didn't understand it, it would be very scary. The sun slowly goes away, the wind rises, clouds form.

I used my field scope and a couple of bits of cardboard as a projector. Apart from a few people with high-end cameras and expensive filters I was about the best prepared person up there (apart from having no spare camera batteries, for which I'm kicking myself). No retinal damage at all. I wasn't looking at it until…

OK, here's one for you optics geeks.

1950s America

They were right, too, given the religious wingnuts in too much of the US and the damage they've done.

Yes, there is no debate. There is science, and there is wrong. There is science, and there is a pack of lies and twisted truths. There is wrong that is creating an existential crisis. That's evil, nothing else.

I suspect you'll find very few Chinese reading this. Yanks are another matter. Yes, emissions are declining, but a lot less if you count imports, and a lot less than they could be if the deniers didn't keep voting Republican, with their black-gunk fuelled paymasters. Yes, I'm having a go at the US, because it's people…

Yes, it costs less, because of even more appallingly lax environmental regulation, meaning you get to point fingers at China for its emissions, while pressurising China to keep those costs down or lose the jobs.

It's not up for debate because it's a simple calculation - something you deniers are incapable of doing.

No, it's because you've offshored your emissions to China and elsewhere. Everything else is being resisted by people in hock to the Kochs. Renewable energy is still minimal (and much of that is from biomass and hydro, which most countries don't count or, if they do, shouldn't), and efficiency savings are a joke,…

Pointing at China or India is a derailing technique. It's simple whataboutery, and is commonly used by entitled individuals when attempting to gloss over their own misdeeds. Nobody is bringing their emissions down nearly fast enough. The US remains the highest per capita emitter in the major industrialised countries,…

Absolutely on the minimum income question. This would certainly mean nobody felt they "had" to enter sex work to eat and keep a roof over their heads. Reforming the drug laws might help as well.

It's not the paying for sex as a service that I have a problem with. It's the way many sex workers are exploited.

No, you are suggesting one alternative that suits certain business interests.

If you don't accept climate change, yes, you're a denier.

I go for bioengineering a plague, personally. You can tailor it to humans. The only losers are us (good riddance) and our inbred food and companion species. I agree about the sci-fi movies and that most humans are ignorant and annoying, but would estimate well above 90%. I do crave company, but I'm pretty hopeless…

Then why the blazes did the US offshore its manufacturing there? Why are rich countries buying so much junk from there? They might be making it. People in rich countries are buying it. Yes, China needs to clean up its act. Agreed. Per capita emissions are still, among the major industrial countries, highest in the US.…

Our discussion was about how much CO2 has been pumped into the atmosphere by any given country. That's the US.