Came for this.  Was not disappointed.

I normally attend this particular parade with my family, but I had a sick child this year - so my wife, my children, and I stayed home.

I did, however, have immediate family members who were at the parade and witnessed this horror right where it started - along with their young children from the street curb. There was…

Exactly. That’s how I avoided hitting a guardrail when I started understeering going down a hill ... nothing else I did worked to fix my trajectory.

David is so correct about the Ford 2.5L being almost un-killable.

I have one in my 2010 Fusion and it has 228k on it. Original engine and transmission (in my case automatic) and doesn’t burn or leak any oil to this point. I’m particular about changing the oil and filter on schedule and the transmission fluid as well.…

Oh, come on now.

I have nothing against Toyota, and they essentially invented JIT .. but one of the inherent flaws is it doesn’t really account for supply chain limitations.

Toyota has been killed by so many things this year - earthquakes included. They cut production by 40% in September.

The only companies who aren’t…

Bingo.

Virtue signaling is all it is.

I have a 2010 Fusion SEL 2.5L that has 227k on it, doesn’t burn ANY oil between changes, and does basically the same gas mileage as your 200.

Nothing mechanical done to it .. original engine, transmission, and gaskets.  It isn’t going to win speed contests, but from getting A to B, I’m not sure what would be more…

Horsepower was NOT overrated in most muscle cars. SAE gross is a different way of measuring horsepower so the numbers are higher - current cars would have more HP if they were measured SAE gross, too.

However, even outside of that, most muscle cars were UNDERRATED because ... well, mostly insurance. Some of it was…

My Fusion is actually an SEL models so it’s loaded with just about everything - including a SYNC system that I constantly use.

What’s funny is that the only time I ever had electronic issues with it was when the Ford dealership disconnected my SYNC system and never reconnected it while performing the Takata passenger…

I have a bad habit of buying first year Fords - they haven’t really bit me yet but I can understand your reticence.

I have a 2010 Fusion that has made it to 227k with hardly anything done to it. (Been through a throttle body and a bad purge canister - but nothing else outside of routine maintenance on the engine…

Wow. All these comments claiming that Webasto roofs are great, and that Ford squeezing a supplier is the problem.

Could be ... but consider this: Webasto does some pretty high end roofs for other companies (Porsche, Ferrari, BMW, Volvo). And yet there are still problems with other roofs ...

So ... would Ferrari will…

If they wanted the cheapest materials, Ford should have chosen the Chinese sweatshop that made your username.

Question: Does Ferrari squeeze their suppliers too?
https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/roof-failure-again.520187/page-3

While I understand the underlying sentiment of this article is “people agree to crazy terms on loans for cars that aren’t worth what you’re paying” ... the details given in this story to support this premise seem strange.

“Nominal” has several definitions - it can mean something drastically different depending upon the context.

I bet there’s enough other engineering-interested folks on here to know that “nominal” in engineering-speak tends to mean “as expected” or “according to plan.”

I don’t think that it makes sense to assume that…

The 6L and 6.4L problems are quite well documented, but I agree that Jalopnik doesn’t have much to say about it.

I think the sub-head is asking the wrong question:

The fact that the LS and 302 landed on this list is ridiculous.

You’re correct. The 3.8L was actually a pretty decent motor outside of the head gasket issue.

We had two of them in Mercury Sables we owned and it wasn’t a bad engine at all for a big family sedan.

Good torque delivery. The Supercharged Tbirds were pretty fun, too.

This list is really strange. None of these are the usual suspects for bad motors.

3800 is pretty well regarded for being a good engine - good blend of power, torque, and fuel mileage.

The Cologne is almost indestructible, and it’s a torquey engine even if it’s not high in horsepower.

And the 302? It’s known to be an…

Even across different platforms, all the GMs look the same from this era.

Case in point ...

Here’s a B-body box that looks like the Seville with less trim: