how does it drive after you go blind from looking at it?

The Pacifica is leaps and bounds better than the Sienna. For what it’s worth, I own a Sienna. I can’t speak for the new gen Oddessey, but the Pacifica sells because it’s a damn good minivan.

Something like this?

I have F/R swaybars and Mopar Stage II (KW Variant 1) coilovers on my MSRT, lowered to 1 finger gap and it handles very well! I also drive a ‘13 TSX and modded RSX and I’d have to say it handles a lot like the TSX now. Tight and responsive and great on some nice, more sweeping canyon drives but nothing like a small…

I love love love my MSRT8. Stock looking but modified to be a little more beastly (sway bars, coilovers, exhaust, torque converter, CAI, tuned, etc).

As the owner of an ‘06 SRT-8, these things are just plain bad ass. I still prefer the look of the pre-facelifted ones, but the ‘08's are super rare and therefore cool.

B-but muh body on frame

Yes, the Durango SRT’s tow rating is 8700 pounds.

David Tracy is close to it.

“I drive a Jeep Rubicon... but I used to like to drive.”

Sandy calls ‘em the way he sees ‘em. A great, engaging guy. Always something more to learn by listening to him.

And if towing is not what you need... get a minivan and save the $900 lease payment for college.

$77,000?

Torch, I would gladly give any of y’all a true look into trucking, that includes a trip across Texas just so you can write about it (the good, the bad and the ugly). Hit me up!

Our car shows Citroen logos on the satnav, representing dealerships, so we know how far it is we have to walk.

The newest version is capacitive. Started changing to capacitive when the Pacifica was launched.

It’s like a minivan, except you wouldn’t put anyone older than 7 in those seats unless you really dislike them.