The only love i have for a CUV enthusiast is for my wife, but she at least knows she’s wrong.

You shut your mouth.

Oh i know how they work. Just love me some D-Trace.

I don’t know why you’re talking about first year cars. My 02 accord was in its fifth and final year of its model cycle. And my 08 SI was A) made in the third year of the 8th gen model cycle and B) used the same power/drivetrain as the RSX Type S (with the addition of balance shafts in the oil pump and an LSD) and the…

Good stuff Mr Tracy. Personally, I’d like to see a brake booster or a torque converter dissected. Whichever is cooler.

Quite a few of the problems i listed are commonplace for the si (3rd gear, sun visors, paint) and the worst problems i had on my accord were also common (v6 auto trans 2nd gear clutch pack which resulted in two new transmissions by 130k, constant wheel bearing issues). They were well documented deficiencies that…

Giving your supercar features from your mass market cars is not the same as giving you mass market cars features from your supercar.

That’s fair, but their reliability has been trending down for the better part of two decades. Long term trends rarely flip overnight especially when nothing has changed within their organization. I’m not going to cross my fingers.

Impressive observation.

Yeah I already did that. It doesn’t grind going into third with Amsoil, but it still pops out.

It’s actually slightly better than the experience I had with my 02 v6 accord. You know Honda reliability is a myth when a brand new one is more problematic than your 230k mile Saab and 150k BMW combined.

God I wish the problems my wife’s 08 SI has had were that simple. With only 70k on it, the clear coat has almost completely peeled off, the cruise control doesn’t work, the auxiliary port decides when it wants to work, the sun visors don’t stay up (and they were replaced 3 times under warranty), the gear shift…

On the F40, the center pipe was for the wastegate. I wonder If that’s what’s going on with the civic because there’s really no reason for it otherwise.

Speaking of the NSX, it would have been nice if they carried at least a little bit of its design language into this. Kinda like how the 98-02 accord coupe got the old NSXs taillights.

Would you rather something look cheap, but last forever or attract a ton of attention as it falls apart? Because the modern civics, SI included, have been complete pieces of shit for more than a decade. Cracking engine blocks, problematic transmissions, interiors that fall to shit, failing electrics. Between a 97 and…

They focus on cost. Specifically the customer’s cost of ownership.

East.

Yessir. That’s was the highlight of the weekend for me.

Those I5s were pretty horrible too.