Also, that’s referring to the difference in exercises performed, not actual muscle strength. Muscles are also supported by bones, which tend to be larger and stronger in trans women who’ve gone through puberty with normal male levels of testosterone.

Our assessments of muscular strength are also confounded by differences in weight between our transgender participants and reference populations. For example, as a group, transwomen weigh more than CW. Thus transwomen will have a higher power output than CW when performing an equivalent number of push-ups. Therefore,…

I know what statistical significance is and it doesn’t change the conclusion of the study, which is that trans women retain a physical advantage that is reduced but does not disappear with hormone therapy. If you have a different study or new research which says something different, link to that.

• Transwomen retain an advantage in upper body strength (push-ups) over female controls for 1–2 years after starting gender affirming hormones.

Someone doesn’t know the meaning of advantage or disappear. Or how puberty works, apparently.

• Transwomen retain an advantage in upper body strength (push-ups) over female controls for 1–2 years after starting gender affirming hormones.

Great, you skipped to the pictures which support the study findings that

Bullshit, you’ve repeatedly said things I’ve verified are lies, wrong and not facts then said nothing when I provide references. You don’t provide any references of your own, you change the subject, twist what I wrote after admittedly not reading it, then insult me when you can’t come up with anything resembling a…

I’m acknowledging the two things in the data - that trans women athletes in general have a permanent athletic advantage AND with hormone therapy some of that advantage declines to a level in line with cis women - as facts.

Yup, demanding facts, providing none of your own, calling the provided facts lies with no counter evidence, then throwing a tantrum and ending with “I know you are, but what am I” is definitely the sign of someone with a valid point.

You mentioned 1 year and you mentioned 2-3 years after previously mentioning no years in the same worn out arguments you have that are still not supported by facts of your own, or refuted by the ones I provided. In the post that was too long for you to read I specifically addressed that. Your receipts are blank.

You’re fixated on trees when I’m talking about the forest. My responses are long because you apparently don’t read the entirety of anything before declaring it wrong - with zero facts to support.

I’ve been clear from my earliest statements that the permanent physical advantages trans women have of larger, stronger bones and muscles is likely due to higher testosterone levels during puberty. Those physical aspects are reduced with hormone therapy but not eliminated. All of the trans Olympic level athletes I’ve…

You’ve been consistent in ignoring the fact that the 2-3 year time frame is your *opinion* and not one that’s in fact adopted by the IOC or consistently in individual sports. In fact, it’s 1 year, which this study indicates is a time period in which trans women still maintain athletic advantages over cis women even…

• Transwomen retain an advantage in upper body strength (push-ups) over female controls for 1–2 years after starting gender affirming hormones.

I don’t disagree with you that the physical advantage (specifically muscles, higher strength levels) lessens over time to a point that would put trans women’s testosterone levels on par with those of their cis competitors.

Musculature is strongly dependent on testosterone levels, and disappears after a suitably long time on T suppression.

in some cases transgender women have to actually take testosterone in order to maintain a healthy balance of a hormone their body literally no longer produces in quantities to keep you alive...

This is not grounded in any factual evidence.

I don’t know where you’re getting this idea that trans women have a permanent advantage in sports, but it isn’t based in fact.