She’s pretty exceptional as a target; she was dragged for decades before she even sought an office. The rest of your comment is also not born out by facts. The media built her up and defended her and served as her surrogates? We don’t share a reality at all, so one of us is out to lunch. The entire media narrative…

Mother Earth must be laughing so hard at us and our need to rank all the sparkles. “How will my wife know I value her if I don’t give her this one kind of compressed dirt??”

You’ve never even watched a full episode?! Here’s Elaine holding interviews with prospective partners to decide whether they warrant the sacrifice of one of her preferred, but discontinued, spermicidal sponges.

Lol it’s the manicured wasteland of nowheresville. Thirty long, slow miles from Hollywood, where grass never grows because of constant shaming and there’s nothing to do but die rich.

Let’s just be thankful that he’s focusing on personal work rather than deflecting onto some ginormous elective outward project that will absorb his every waking thought and be a constant shield against introspection. Yay!

You know why? Because he’s terrified. That’s what terrified people do: hide.

They are obviously, effectively, the same thing. Our disagreement is about whether the blame lies more with Hillary or more with the decades of lies, media collusion, and ignorance and anger of voters in response to her.

Thanks for that weasily reply. We’re done here.

Why are you chiming in to my conversation with someone else instead of responding to my post? You sounded just like posters like benjaminallover, who shat on Hillary until the eleventh hour, thereby helping to poison the discourse until it was too late. Fuck your lukewarm tea.

That’s an absurd premise. Many great candidates have lost to fascists through history because their quality mattered less to the masses than ignorance and prejudice. But it’s useful to you so that you don’t have to look at those prejudices and failures.

No she wouldn’t, when faced with Russian intervention, thirty years of lies, massive misogyny, the abdication of responsibility from the media, and the usual, *incredibly powerful* pendulum swing after eight years with one party. It’s not funny; it’s pathetic that all these forces came together to neuter a great…

What’s tiresome is the notion that Hillary was a bad candidate. She’s a truly intelligent, accomplished, lifelong public servant who has always given a shit and would have been a very solid president.

That’s the thing—it’s not complicated. Just do the correct and possible thing. Don’t vote for the impossible thing. Don’t vote for the lunatic. Don’t sit home and pout that your civic duty wasn’t “earned.”

It’s sickening. Bad people distort everything to serve themselves, but when they commandeer and twist the message of humility, charity, selflessness, and tolerance for their own narcissism, prejudice, and greed, I feel like there should be a Jesus Court that serves eviction notices. Saint Peter: “Hm, looks like you…

She’s the quintessential unrepentant Berniebro. Trashed Hillary through the entire campaign, and still can’t let go of the hate—even when presented with the apocalyptic results of her ilk’s behavior. No honey, Hillary didn’t fail; you failed the most qualified candidate ever to seek the office.

And this ain’t the usual, idle dinnertime threat. I keep upsetting myself by noticing that most of the random people I meet on any given day are better and better suited to run the country than El Stupido—my sister’s cleaning lady, the theoretical six-year-old at your dinner table vision, the dog groomer, the…

So correct and perceptive. You’ll never be president.

It’s amazing that you could watch her concession speech or a dozen other examples and still declare such a thing. You do not speak the truth.

Both can be true, and are. There are several factors that alone could have caused this calamity, and many more that, when combined, ultimately created it.

Maybe not anymore, but he was apparently a raging violent bully throughout his childhood and adolescence. Just *loved* hurting others under the protection of daddy’s power.