Short answer is no, but that wasn’t the point of the tax credits. It was meant to help automakers scale up EV production to bring prices down and jump-start the EV market. Automakers were/are still in the midst of scaling up and working towards more affordable EVs when the IRA basically pulled the rug out from under…

Government subsidies exist for all sorts of things. It can easily lead to a competitive edge. You see China doing the same...

Taxpayer money is used for individual benefit all the time, for a wide variety of reasons, and tax incentives are used all the time to encourage movement in directions the government would like to encourage, and have been for a very long time. Nothing new or unique about the EV credit.

Add kids or any other dependent to that list.

Sooooo..... you got yours and fuck everyone else? Very boomer of you. 

The goal of this legislation was to bring battery production to the US, not necessarily to make cars cheaper. If making cars cheaper was the sole goal we would have reduced the barriers to entry, not made them harder. This was more about protecting jobs and fighting a geo-political struggle with China than making…

Yeah and we shouldn’t subsidize oil, corn, eggs, etc. etc.

I’m getting a commercial every 30 seconds. This is why I prefer articles.

We’re debating if the 2024 Land Crusier is a true LC, or just a tarted-up Prado.

No, I mean the Inflation Reduction Act.

Just because you CAN buy something outright, doesn’t mean you SHOULD buy it outright. All depends on the terms of the financing.

Bingo. To get 2.75% interest I did a 36 mo loan, hence why the payment looks high. I’m getting out from it quickly at the cheapest possible terms.

So I have a $1039 payment on a Hyundai Santa Cruz. But hear me out.

My Tacoma payment is over $1,200. The monthly payment number doesn’t really tell you anything. The rest of her loan terms are telling the story though.

Exactly. Toyota repeatedly fails at styling, innovation and e vehicles. The result is great sales due to quality and value. Customer satisfaction and loyalty are the result. 

Based on this very tiny corner reveal, my guess is that it looks like a 3/4 scaled Sequoia.

ok expert. how do you think supply companies ever blend gasoline components properly? if they are always going to separate? once they are blended, it’s all the same weight dummy.

Did you stop reading literally mid-sentence to go and post this?

“What the hell kind of piss-poor engineering is this?”

I shopped used A8s in 2018. Adding 3 years and 36,000 miles to the factory warranty was $8,000, which nuts.