You are a fucking mind slave if you think protest requires a permit.

He forgot one of the key purchases: the 55 gallon drum of lube so you can get good and greased up. Can’t arrest what you can’t grab.

Por si no lo fuera ya... veamos, esto no cambia nada... no se sabe como se podrá usar esto. Si permite correr aplicaciones caseras en Switch no estaría mal, pero no creo que Nintendo sea tan tonta como para dejar manga ancha a los piratas... solo tiene que ir exigiendo versiones mas modernas del Fireware de la consola…

y de pronto la Swich se me hace mas atractiva xD

At low speeds like in a parking lot, these cars are pretty much silent.

Yeah, I drive gasoline cars and I can’t even count the number of times I’ve been crawling behind pedestrians walking right in the middle of the road in a parking lot because they can’t hear me. I think the solution is to have people learn to pay attention more, and not have a minimum for the amount of noise pollution…

I’ve never had a blind person step in front of me while driving the Tesla. I’ve never had a blind person step in front of me driving one of my ICE cars. There happen to be several blind commuters and blind students I see on a somewhat regular basis when I drive my kids to school, so I’m not approaching this with a…

So, what sounds should I add to my ICE minivan, ICE station wagon, and ICE roadster since I’ve also had people step in front of each of them without any attempt to gauge if it was safe to step into a lane in which cars travel? Did you read my comment?

And zero upside as well. Since a noise loud enough to make a difference would be too loud.

Downside is law is stupid. Best thing about electric is silence. Why make a noise generator?

There’s downside: raises the price of the car (costs automakers $55-100) and adds to noise pollution. Also the law only applies to hybrids and EVs, not to ICE cars (so a quiet ICE car gets off).

Regulating better pedestrian avoidance tech, or hell, even an automatic noise emitted when a pedestrian is close would be more palatable (at least it wouldn’t be on continuously). Adding noise to silent cars is not progress.

I drive a Tesla. I’ve been in a Costco parking lot unloading a cart full of everything you fill a Costco cart with, right next to another group of people who were unloading their car. I finished first, closed the hatch (loudly), returned my cart, walked right past them to open my door, climbed in, shut the door, and…

On most normal vehicles you hear more tire noise than engine noise anyways. When the CRV is doing 20mph through the neighborhood, I’m certainly not deafened by the sound of straight pipes.

Tires make a ton of noise.

Separating this from current politics and thinking solely about the progress of civilization, I’m not sure that artificially adding noise pollution to a technology that emits none is a reasonable thing to do. I would have to believe there would be a health benefit to reducing the racket - imagine a city completely free…

Exactly this. I just saw two girls and a guy get mowed down last week from a diesel pickup while crossing at an intersection. They walked from Walmart, across the parking lot, straight out into traffic without looking up from their phones once. It was the blind following the blind.

I’m not with the GOP on much, but noise pollution is a massive downside. If you live a city, this would be a bad law.

My statement in no way said they were. Those two things are not mutually exclusive.

This seems to be more about their driver’s inability to put their phone down and pay attention.

With the bikers I routinely see not obeying any traffic rules and the walkers I see so engrossed in their phones, I don’t think anything short of a 150db siren, hundreds of flashing LED’s, and possibly an arm to push people out of the way is going to keep people safe.