yeh, no. this is just bad, and the reasons for its badness are monetary, not cultural. waters is really interested in stuff that's bad (or "bad", as the case may be) for cultural reasons. this really isn't something that's likely to excite him, I'm thinking.

I am shocked, shocked, to discover that a founding member of the Meatmen is a jackass.

… and was an award-winning competitive ballroom dancer* who was once recruited to be a male stripper. (He didn't follow through.)

oh he has loads of fun with this. he does it whenever he goes on stewart, it's obvious he loves picking nits.

Picky, picky, picky. At least it destroyed things. Isn't that what's really important in an asteroid/comet film?

How would whether it's "stealing an Outer Limits episode" be relevant to whether or not it's a subversion of the standard comic book tropes?

the whole 'terry gilliam would have killed it' meme is apparently based on a leaked first draft that gilliam later edited to add back in most of what the screenwriter cut. it's been trumped-up because 'terry gilliam would have killed it' makes for better linkbait than 'this is a draft screenplay terry gilliam disliked…

It's "beautiful" in the way that things are when you hire competent professionals. Like a really slick ad campaign.

If the majority of people who ingest a satirical art-product don't get that it's satire, then by definition it's a poor example of satire. So if Snyder's a satirist, he's really bad at it.

"No, it's a serious story about what it means to be a Superhero in an age where a terrorist attack like 9/11 isn't stopped."

As I've said,there's a difference between executing the tropes and satirizing them. He's claiming satire post facto; I see no evidence that's really intended.

The problem is that Snyder is confusing the simple execution of a trope with parody. He needs to learn that he doesn't get to claim seriousness and parody at the same time without doing the hard work of producing something that actually presents that way. There are countless examples he could have looked at of…

"He's making no actual statement about Terry Gilliam as a director, writer, or person."

Don't forget, Snyder thinks Sucker Punch was brilliant and misunderstood.

My take is a little different: There are a lot of fascistic elements in any Moore story (and they're not always subverted); I felt that what Snyder did played those up and undermined the usual subversion of fascist ideas.

It would have been a Gilliam film, which is to say that even as a disaster, it would have been fascinating and probably wonderful.

meh. i probably disagree with silver about why, but i would agree that hewing too close to the source hurt him. there are a lot of things about moore's source that aren't great, and snyder's ending essentially amplifies those while undermining the mitigating threads. Malin Akerman as Laurie was hugely undermining to…

well, then, the Catholic Church. Satisfied?

FotC was an apt comparison.

i've always found this song a little disturbing…this actually cleans it up a bit, not a good thing necessarily.