That boot leather must taste mighty fine on a Monday morning.

That just shows a complete lack of care on behalf of the owner that you wonder about what else is lurking underneath. Also, if that is such an easy fix, why haven’t they done it? I can understand not doing the service, although that should be reflected in the price, but a simple clearing a code? The only reason not to…

LOL man it’s been decades since I heard that ol thicker steel line. I mean buy which ever brand you like. Reminds me of Corvette guys trying to explain why THEIR Corvette is super rare....

Fair enough, I just remember growing up in the mid/late 90's if you removed the badges you couldn’t tell and GMC apart from the Chevy stablemate. Though not that big trucks have gone upmarket and more luxury, I think GMC’s are, luxury wise much nicer than the Chevy stable mate.

Eh, these days it’s almost always a software and/or process problem. The user may have enabled some checkboxes on the order form that the system wasn’t properly configured to handle correctly for that car type and since the system wasn’t expecting it in the first place, the system doesn’t have a way to fix either.

If you’re going to have competition, it might as well be you

My best memory about Saturn was their no hassle sales tactics at the dealership. “If you want to talk someone, come inside. Otherwise, we’ll leave you alone to walk around the lot.”

Agreed. Saturn was also selling to something like 85% conquest customers for GM... in other words, they weren’t even considering other GM products and were mostly import buyers. I believe this was true up until 1999-2000 or so when they started selling poorly rebadged Opels (the L-series wasn’t horrible but it was…

I legit thought it was a Lotus when I saw it for the first time.  These look so cool but have an absolutely gutless powertrain.  If GM actually put some power into this platform I might buy one.

I legitimately have no idea what brand this car even is.

Pontiac actually had an identity until the day it died,

“every time it was made more mainstream, we didn’t sell any. And when it was goofy, which the automotive press loved, there were only 100,000 people in the whole freakin’ world that wanted one.”

Much as I loved all of my Saabs, Saab should have died in 1990. GM was just life support. GM COULD have done what Ford did with Volvo and set them up for future success, but they didn’t, they just ignored them for a long time, then too little, too late.

This is an epic dunk.

Par for the course. Sometime around 1970, TVR had a display at the London (?) motor show that had completely nude women on the stand with the cars.

Boy, wait until Colin gets a look at the car ads from the ’70s.

I think $4,200 is about what a car that passes inspection costs at this point.  Not worried about the miles because the Ford drivetrain is pretty stout and the interior looks to be in good shape.  I’m not under the delusion that this is somehow collectible I just think under $5k is a good price for this particular car.

This is one of the rare cases where the convertible looks better than the coupe imo. Maybe it has to do with the paint or something.

can’t wait to try out the new i4iM70i

You mean my wife’s 2015 BMW 435i Gran Coupe xDrive M Sport had too long of a name?