"I've seen all the pictures of the ruined buildings."

Dnasty. The Silverdome is actually much less than 30 min from the city limits of Detroit proper.

There's nothing wrong with the map. It summarizes it quite accurately.

2,300 vials of SARS on the wall. 2,300 vials of SARS. Take one down, lose it, look around. 2,299 vials of SARS on the wall. 2,299 vials of SARS on the wall...

As you are a Baltimorean, and one of 97.5% of Americans who don't get pedantic about the difference between "Metro Detroit" and the "City of Detroit", you are correct. There is indeed a New Baltimore in Detroit.

I talk to Romanians from time to time, and I can't help but bring this place up. One of them was very proud to live just a few miles from the place.

"When I looked out the window, on the hardship that had struck

The "not within the city limits" distinction makes a big deal to you, but once you get outside of a 100 mile or so radius... and this "outside" area includes most of Michigan as well as the country and world, you are seen as being in Detroit.

No, it is not like that. I looked all over and found no geographic region named "New York City" that Yonkers is contained in. In distinct contrast: Pontiac, South Lyon, etc are all in a geographic region called the "DETROIT Metro Area".

When most people say Detroit, or think of it, they mean Metro Detroit. The area. It also has that name for a reason.

I did. All of these communities have to deal with regional development, tax, job, transportation, crime, and other issues. None of them, all part of Detroit (metro area) is an island. The differencse you are trying to claim is artificial. The headline about the Silverdome was missing "metro" or "area" after Detroit,…

I have driven it many times. I also check again with the map. Pontiac (specifically the Silverdome) is 20 minutes from Detroit. To say it is "an hour away" is to exaggerate by 300%.

Yes, of course. Which helps my familiarity with the geography and terms.

It's a hard determination on both Hamtrack and Highland Park. They have a special status of being entirely within the Detroit city limits, but are legally distinct communities from "The City of Detroit".

No, because there is no "Pontiac metro area" that covers a large part of three counties. That distinction goes to Detroit. They are not two distinct places. Other than the strict legal city limits. Aside from that, and most of the time, "Detroit" refers to the region, not just the legal city limits.

Six: To take a phrase from Cornel West and amend it to make more sense, "Race matters.... only to racists".

I am indeed aware that Wikipedia is user generated content, which is why I mentioned that you could correct it (user-generated edits!). Good points.

Pontiac Lions? How is that racial? Does it involve Native Americans or something?

GreatPower: Geographic facts are stubborn things. These people are free to edit Wikipedia to take Ferndale, South Lyon, and Pontiac out of Detroit, but I doubt those edits will stand.

Ferndale, Oily, is a Metro Detroit community.