To who? None of my friends are like this. If they were, they wouldn’t be my friends. That’s the problem. It’s a self-selective group of assholes. Those who act in this way would never be tolerated by those who don’t. :-\
To who? None of my friends are like this. If they were, they wouldn’t be my friends. That’s the problem. It’s a self-selective group of assholes. Those who act in this way would never be tolerated by those who don’t. :-\
You’re not really making any sense, I’m afraid. How is pointing out that men commit suicide more often than women “gendering” it anymore than you pointing out women are more at risk for depression?
Agreed! More than ever, we need to stick by each other.
You’re not reading to understand or converse. You’re reading to reply. I said relatively high rates of suicide was a men’s issue, but that depression was an issue that impacts both genders. I’m not ignoring any facts. This is the fact:
That’s an excellent point. And, yeah, I can’t help but say something. Bullying and condescension strikes at my core as a thinking, feeling person.
My friend, it’s a men’s issue because more men are killing themselves. DEPRESSION is an issue for both genders. There’s a good chance more women don’t kill themselves (thank goodness) because they have a better support system. As I’m sure you’re aware, men often struggle with seeking help.
That sucks that only three of your guy friends would stick up for you. That’s not acceptable, and it’s also not what being a friend is all about. At work, I’ve made it a point to call out to my male co-workers when they’re being condescending pricks.
You’ve just done is exactly what you accuse me of being. You’ve taken a legitimate men’s issue (high rates of suicide) and made it about women.
I honestly don’t think you’d care. However, here is one: In all countries, suicide rates of men are significantly higher than women. In the U.S., men die from suicide three to five times more often than women.
Yes, all of those things are horrible. But I could assault you with statistics of how crappy it is to be a man, as well. They’d be different, but they would paint a grim picture.
How do I call out something I never see? Where are all these horrific men I keep reading about? It infuriates me and it’s difficult to believe. My wife says it happens a lot, and I believe her. But she says men “like me” (she’s so sweet) are a deterent and so we never encounter men abusing women in this way. If this…
This is a petty, horrible thing to say about men. If I said it about women, I’d be rightfully accused of misogyny. Degrading and abusing women is not intrinsically masculine any more than drug abuse is intrinsically Black. If you’ve been made to think this way, you’re hanging out with assholes.
Sexism (or whatever you want to call it) has also led to the death of millions upon millions of men in battle. Women, of course, can also be casualties of war, but men are the primary victims. How much benefit do you really think the average man gets from sexism? We’re talking about a society where men and boys commit…
But an early comment is apt. Where should I kick a girl if she grabs my ass?
Why is it okay to say “men” will do a certain thing? THOSE boys did that to you, and it was wrong. But if I told the same story about Blacks or Asians, I’d be rightfully admonished.
I appreciated the article and the perspective, but holy shit are these comments full misandry. I understand many women are angry and afraid, but denigrating men to make yourselves feel more empowered is (while understandable) not helpful.