The remarkable thing, to me, about this is the continuing dystopian fantasy about "women's privileges" maintained by these nutcases and far too many who don't pull out the guns, but complain privately. If you quiz them about what these "privileges" are, they'll tell you:

- women expect and get free everything
- women…

Well, that was exciting potential turning point while it lasted. I'll.....I'll just be over here.

or even just the ability to choose to not have more than x number of kids.

Good. Fuck him and his Bieber hair.

Rape victims are treated like garbage by the vast majority of police, we just went over this with the Cosby case. What happened to Shia is not okay and I hope he gets connected with whatever supports he needs.

Here's a protip for the long con. Tell people you were diagnosed with mild IBS and you'll have that excuse locked and loaded for the rest of your life.

My secret weapon is an "upset stomach" in case I need to hang out in the bathroom for 20 minutes and play games on my phone.

If this happens, te extreme Christian Right will get what they've always wanted. THey will have effectively triggered the apocalypse. Don't say I didn't warn you when, after their televised wedding, you hear horse hoofs in the distance. I would get your canned goods and guns ready now.

So are the Bachmanns, and theirs turned out alright.

Re: DuggarBow, I see this is as a GOOD thing. Why ruin two other normal people when they can just get together and have a good, old fashioned time together.

All of my friends who came from traditional Chinese and Indian families used to tell me how jealous they were when it came to family stuff. They revered their parents and all, but they also hated being under their parent's thumbs pretty much until death. I remember meeting a woman who was in the US while her husband…

It's not a feature of "waspy" culture to not care for grandchildren or help family out. It's part of a new ideology that is spreading, sure, but it's not based on people's skin color.

Except my mom raised her kids. She is NOT retired. She is working. Not everyone has grandparents that are of retirement age. My father is but that is because he became permanently disable led and can't exactly run around after my 4 boys. My useless soon to be ex-husband's family never had anything to do with the kids…

I'm 100% in favor of this if the grandparents are, too, but I don't think it's fair to EXPECT your parents to spend years being heavily involved in raising your children, as if they were somehow bad parents for deciding that they did their 18 years of childcare and, barring some emergency, your kids are your job to…

I agree, but for a few small things. One, not everyone lives near their parents, and not everyone can (If I had kids I still couldn't live near my folks, because I don't like the area and there aren't any jobs there in my field). Two, sometimes grandparents have values you don't really want your kids spending that…

No sorry. My parents put in years of hard work raising me and my siblings and are now enjoying a well earned rest. It would be a cold day in hell before I asked them to raise my toddlers, I just wouldn't do it to them. I chose to have kids there my problem.. Its wrong to dismiss it but really selfish to expect it.

That's ... a nice fairy tale. My kid has all four of her biograndparents (and two step grandparents) and even if they lived nearby (which they don't) I wouldn't trust her with any of them. Their values are not mine, their parenting methodologies are stuck in the 1970s. (To be honest, more like the 60s... or 50s).

Um, no. My parents and in-laws have wildly different values than my husband and I do. We also really don't want them living with us. My MIL would love to have that kind of an impact on our kids and family relationship, but no.

Or a national childcare program that provides them with quality care, at an affordable price, regardless of the structure of their families.

Merry Christmas