I meant we spend more on medicine/scoial prgrams than China spends in total. All of their national budget.

I did realize this after it was too late. 

I still don’t get why you are saying it did not come from cbpp.org when I gave you the link multiple times. It was just easier to copy and paste from google than the website or I would have used the version on the website. It is not like it is the first time I have looked into this topic. Trying to explain to people…

Did you click the link? I googled: us budget social security medicare. This is one of the top images. When I click the image from the google search I get this website.

I’ll admit we get less out of it, but if you factor in the way the US tax system pays out, we are still near the top.

So, you think in other countries there is one tax that covers all of their social services? There are not separate programs in ther places?  

Do you not realize those making next to nothing get paid tax credits when they submit their taxes? They don’t have to pay any tax or have any withheld. It is not a refund in the traditional sense. I know people that get paid more in tax ‘refunds’ as they earn pre tax. The US uses this system to pay people in need, but…

There have been studies that take into account the tax portion of the goverrnment spending.

Works per capita too.

Except the US still spends more per capita. Your numbers don’t include tax programs that the US uses to pay low income families.

The link I provided in the last comment has the graphic, or a more recent version. It is from cbpp.org as you requested. Not sure what the problem is...

Not really. Only if you have never dealt with people that need government assistance. Most of the tax programs are designed to help the people that need it. I know people that get more money in refunds than they earn working, because they have so many dependents. Half of the country gets back more money than they put…

You have to look for total federal budget. Most people only cite discretionary spending, which is a small part of the pie.

Right, it is almost as if Government spending isn’t always the answer. 

Actually the GDP numbers only account for the amount directly given to the programs, not the amount given as a tax break or tax refund, which is a primary mechanism the US uses for giving money to individuals. If you factor in the tax incentives, the US tops most countries in per capita spending for social services.

Actually those numbers only account for the amount directly given to the programs, not the amount given as a tax break or tax refund, which is a primary mechanism the US uses for giving money to individuals. If you factor in the tax incentives, the US topos most countries.

First, you left out the part where parts of the law have already been blocked because they would have put 70,000 truck drivers who owned their own trucks out of work.

I tried to explain this to my wife the other day. Someone in our area had a boat for sale. They parked it next to a major road with a for sale sign, but they parked it in between two bushes where you could only see it for a second. We only noticed because we got caught in traffic. I told her, the guy didn’t really…

I believe people that like the way SUVs drive are just focused on comfort not how sporty they drive. If people are not interested in driving aggressively, a sports car can be a miserable place sit/ride in.

You have to find someone that goes to the government auctions to get a newer one. The GMT400 have mostly been retired and bought by junkyards by now.