Exactly. In-universe, Laura has been retired for over 2 decades (based on her oldest child’s age & the fact that he was snapped). Surely her agent number was reassigned in that time...& surely she wasn’t the 19th SHIELD agent ever. 

The name “Mockingbird” is never used in either this show or in AoS.
Also, Bobbi is never called “Agent 19" in AoS, or any other codename (unless you count the numerous rude nicknames Hunter uses for her).
Also also, codenames can be reused; Laura has clearly been retired for decades.

It’s literally shot for shot from the comic. Maya shoots his eyes off. He goes blind like Daredevil.

Don’t worry, he’ll be back.

I was worrying/wondering about that recently because of all the Mockingbird talk... Then realized, ‘wtf? We’re already in the multiverse! That means *of course* AoS is canon! Everything is!' But I'm still going to be super bummed if we don't get Quake in "Secret Wars," and mentoring the Young Avengers like in those…

Yes, he keeps telling her to just walk away. If anything, he seems a little impressed. It does feel like a “I’m going to kill your mom but continue to honor our arrangement concerning you” kind of situation, although as he starts getting angry the dynamic shifts.

Did we watch the same scene? Kate is unable to even hurt him and he tosses her around like a ragdoll. He kept smirking at her as a ridiculous annoyance not worth his time. It’s quite clear that if he wanted to kill her he could have. 

Bobbi’s first appearance on AOS was only a year before Age of Ultron, and Laura was certainly retired long before then.

It’s because - just like Punisher and Bullseye - Fisk’s mother is *also* named Martha.

This is good. Another way to do it is make SHIELD have a Mockingbird program, just as the Soviets had the Black Widows.

I was thinking along the same lines for Mockingbird. People are assuming that this automatically makes Shield non-canon, when there’s plenty of ways for it to be canon.

I mean he’s 100% coming back. Anyone who has watched any TV whatsoever knows that someone who isn’t shown dead on-screen isn’t dead.

Eleanor’s initial reaction to the video’s fine—she’s in elite black hat corporate security after all.

In my fan canon, Laura was Mockingbird, then the designation was given to Bobbi when Laura retired.

He was hit by a car right before that fight. Also he’s not dead. 

Maya has her own show and I don’t think you shoot the Kingpin and just get away with it. Comics Fisk has been shot by Echo and he recovered, no reason MCU Fisk can’t, specially now that Marvel is leaning into the more ridiculous aspects of the comics a bit more.

🤷 I love toss a coin to your witcher and loathed save the city. I get it’s supposed to be semi-parody but I don’t even find it listenable.

Not necessarily. We don’t know if Laura ever used the name Bobbi and Mockingbird as a code name could have been used by multiple people (not the first time for that to happen in a comics universe). There is still nothing here the precludes both from existing in the same universe.

That’s completely true. It’s just that here it came across so weirdly as Kate never seems to have a reaction to scenes where she is clearly killing someone. And with someone like Stark or even Clint it fit their character, but Kate’s supposed to be new at this.

The Avengers have very clearly always killed low-level goons (think of all the times Stark hit people with those small yet obviously lethal missiles of his) which really made the whole ‘Ronin killed bad guys’ arc come across really strangely. 

It’s a while since I watched the show where the drop from the first half to the second half was as steep as here. The writing was just idiotic, they introduced just random stuff at the last moment and didn’t pay off a single mystery established in the beginning. Like the Rolex because the Tracksuit mafia specifically…