LOL, was reading that comment wondering what was so wrong with letting someone “do the work”. Sad that it’s considered “work” but that’s a whole other thread.

Yes, and I find laughable the claim that there is no other way to have pleasurable sex. Honestly, will people never stop with this? Always with the One True Way for sex, and telling other women what they should be doing or wanting.

Or maybe they don’t like the implication that they’re sex workers in some way when they are not? Not because they have any feeling or intent of negativity against women who are sex workers, but because they are not sex workers, and that matters to them just as much as being sex workers matters to women who are?

Right, as if Democrats want to pursue taxation policy that destroys the incentives of profit, or will render people laborers for free. The choices are between unbridled capitalism and minimally-bridled capitalism. There is no viable alternative on offer in the US.

The 3% difference fits my narrative just fine. I’m saying that the travails of the white working class were not the reason why Trump won. The working class has had the same kinds of problems for many years, and non-white members of it even moreso than others.

Probably, it’s too confusing to see who replies to whom here.

And that group was wealthier. That’s just the way it is.

Show me the expansions of health care or coverage supported by Trump, not to mention the racial resentment “everyone” runs on. That’s just false.

How many exactly? The answer is, when you look county-by-county, not many.

Why is food the only form of overconsumption that concerns you, or at least, the only one you care to comment on, when there are so many others having a negative impact on the world? It sounds like you simply enjoy criticizing people for being fat.

Right, that makes them “here legally”.

Right, I’m talking about 2016.

No, those articles are talking about whether Democrats are attracting the support of wealthier voters. I’m sure they are, especially when those voters are better educated. I am talking about the 2016 election and who voted for Trump, and how those compared on average to Clinton voters.

I’m saying it because it’s true. Look up any source you like - if you want something easy, look at 538, major newspapers, use the googles. Look at exit polls, and in case those are skewed, look at voting in counties with different average incomes, and different levels of education. Education was a far better predictor…

Right, and 38% in that group voted for Romney. So what you really need to account for is a 3% shift in that group, and where Trump picks up support is 65+ voters, voters with no college education, and people who expressed concern about immigration as their #1 issue.

We have so very far to go before the profit motive is ignored in any of our policies! So very far.

Should we have more H1B visas? More DACA arrangements? Tell me more about these legal immigrants that Trump, Republican leaders, and their voters support.

I’m afraid we are going to have some factual disagreements on these matters.

What’s the actual evidence of that? There is none FYI, let me spare you. The same people are voting Republican as ever. They are more likely to be wealthier, white, and male.

You’re missing the point; the conspicuous display of overconsumption in America is NOT the fact that people eat too many calories and are too sedentary. If I were going to look for pernicious overconsumption, that is not where I would begin.