Maybe that’s true, I don’t know. But if Ms. Schultz was trying to understand Mamie Till’s pain as a mother, a painting of Mamie Till visibly experiencing the pain of losing her child would better express what the artist said she wanted to.

But! Ms. Schutlz CAN’T know Mamie’s pain. Even if she had lost a child, she…

I wondered the same thing. I’m white and not an art expert, so I’m here to listen to what others have to say. I think part of the critique (and others should jump in here) is not just that the artist is white, but that she treated the subject as an object. The photo of Mamie Till, whoever it was shot by, conveys…

You don’t read very well do you? Here, let me walk you through it:

How could she have done the painting in a way that you wouldn’t be able to say this afterwards? (Other than to not do it at all because she’s white)

There’s a few things going on; first, lets be clear that Dana Schutz is one of the most famous American artists in the world right now, with her work held in collections across the United States and the world, and her work probably is already included in contemporary art history books. She has a level of professional…

The photos of Emmitt Till appeared in the Chicago Defender, which was, for a time, the nation’s oldest black daily newspaper. The photographer was black and the reporter who wrote the story was black. The story only appeared in the Defender.

Totally agree. It was a terrible idea for a painting and the end result would be nothing to write home about even if she’d chosen different subject matter.

Also, if the most poignant thing you can say about your art is “it’s sad for mothers when their children die,” then maybe you need to try again. That’s been said already.

I feel like reading this it’s worth adding that white people are going to be the people making the big money behind the scenes the majority of the times in the majority of contexts anyways. that’s the way it goes and people already don’t see *that* as a problem... so it’s normal to white people when the white people…

Agreed. And she is usurping the larger narrative that Till’s own mother created — a painful and searing critique of racial violence — and justifying that silencing/flattening by saying, “I get to bc I’m a mom, too!”

Indeed, Schutz’s intention is largely meaningless in the face of the work. Schutz treats her source as simply an object; as a photograph rather than a record of a teenager murdered because he was black.

Probably unrelated but i feel it very much is related. I’m seeing ads about the debut of a show about police killings of a black person, an obvious allusion to the rash of extrajudicial killings and police cover ups of the past several years. I just find the ease of which white folks (yes i know it’s starring a black…

Jesus, no it wouldn’t. It’s a hangover from colonial times and it’s vile.

Yeah I’m not gonna feel bad for a woman thinks that by playing the good black person white people will love her. Colorism is trash but so is Sage Steel.

its not a springboard. It just is “so if “this” happens to one male, it suddenly works, while it does not work at all when thousands of women experience “that”for months, years, and/or are killed, raped on video, etc.. It is more of a “sometimes, you have to wonder.”

It’s not about outrage. Many people simply don’t want to listen to someone with stupid, hateful views. And why should we? People are judging jontron and finding him lacking.

“I’m aware of cases where online harassment led to the victim committing suicide and it was taken very seriously”

I still maintain that sending an epileptic trigger to a man with known photosensitive epilepsy rises to physical assault.

Not necessarily. The headline is accurate, it just requires reading the article to see the epilepsy angle. And of course that is significant and I agree that the FBI ought to pursue this (perhaps more so for the 40 who can more readily be proven to have known its intended effects given that replicating the initial…

That’s what I’m saying! What the fuck.