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Lame. I tweeted at Katie yesterday after responding to your comment since it’s her article you’re commenting on, but she never responded. She probably thought I was some troll since we don’t follow each other over there. You could maybe try contacting Kinja customer service? They’re the ones that ungreyed me during

Are you still not ungreyed? That’s a travesty. I’ve been planning to message one of the writers next time I see them jump into the comments, but none of them have been engaging much lately. Maybe one of us should tweet at them.

Haha Thanks, Scrawler. I think I’ve run out of steam at this point, but it was fun while it lasted.

Eh, I don’t know if it really qualifies as moving the goalposts—this isn’t the first time this conversation has happened and it’s reasonable to expect that role prominence be taken into account when the numbers are compared. I could have expressed it more clearly, though.

“12.5% of movie characters were African-American, which is basically dead-on for percentage of the population. 5.3% were Asian, which is again, basically dead-on for percentage of the population.”

Again, no one is judging it by how faithful it is to the source material or the source material’s sequel or anything else. They’re judging it because the filmmakers had an opportunity to cast women of color in the lead roles and chose not to do so.

There are very few prominent actresses of Asian and Native American descent in Hollywood. This was an opportunity to give one of those unheralded actresses a more high profile role than she’s had previously or to elevate a newcomer. People who care about representation and opportunities for people of color have every

The whitewashing won’t occur until the second movie, or am I being too literal?

I’m sorry I’m just not seeing any kneejerk, nuance-free outrage. Can you point to anywhere that it exists? Because those two groups aren’t calling for a boycott, they arent protesting the film or director or actors as far as I can see. All I can see is they came out with statements about how they feel slighted by the

A movie came out that seems to focus primarily on five female scientists when we have a substantial gap in support for women in STEM fields (implied when I pointed out “5 female scientists”). As Katie pointed out, the cast is also fairly diverse (hence when I said “60% white”). The explanation for the oversight where

“No one will see a 100 million dollar movie fronted by some unknown Native American woman.”

Weird, nobody knew who the fuck random Australian Sam Worthington was when he was in Avatar, but that didn’t stop anything. Meanwhile, the financial argument for Ghost in the Shell’s casting didn’t ensure its success (I see why

Nope, you misread my statment and got the causality mixed up. It was a dumb choice because it’s dumb to not read the sequels to a book when you’re making an adaptation of a series. And then the dumb choice inadvertently led to the white washing (which, yes, is a sin by omission). The dumbness of the choice was first.

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Same. But apparently it’s not allowed to be complicated. And Garland himself mentions how it’s unintentionally racist behavior so it’s not like he’s being defensive or doesn’t recognize his culpability in the matter. 

Lol it’s the guy who’s mad about The Last Jedi’s feminist agenda

Can we say that it was a dumb choice? Is that allowed? And because of the dumb choice, he ended up whitewashing characters?

It’s almost as if they’re separate entities with different editorial staffs! Weird how that happens.

1) American culture and “white” are not synonymous.

You didnt point out anything counterproductive though? You just called people mad and are now instigating with another user, and asked us to imagine who that person is. There is no discussion in that, just kind of aggressive trolling. You havent said a single thing about what about the article is counter productive.

It seems like a strange move to not read the other two books in the series (or at least have someone on staff read them) before making a movie of the first book. Why limit your information that way? Plus runs the risk (like in this instance) of missing things revealed in the later books that still impact the story

Imagine the type of dweeb who gets offended about people discussing the complexities of race and only sees it as them being “mad” despite there being no anger involved at all.