The SHOW is “applying contemporary notions of celebrity to the early modern period”. THAT’S the point of my original comment. To say that they’re using anachronistic and even ahistorical ideas. He was famous and celebrated, yes. But NOT in the manner that the show (at least has seen in the trailers) is implying. Least…

I can’t fight you there.

Oh, it’s worst, though.

You promote that piece of shit book if you want. Include me out.

I bought it off the rack for YEARS. Since I was a gay kid with a fashion bug up his butt.

Plum Sykes is British Carrie Bradshaw with a brain injury and aristo friends.

Oh, that self-promoting hack shitheel.

I NEVER SAID SHE DIDN’T HAVE IT.

1. No shifting. My point was he wasn’t mixing with the nobles he was entertaining. And I’m right. “Peasant” or “Tradesperson”, my original point STANDS. He wasn’t treated like a “rock star” at the time or a celebrity. He was treated like a provider of entertainment who amused people. The same problem Moliere had to…

So gross.

Yuck. That’s gross.

Seriously.

1. Playing in the court was being on demand. Not being equal or even considered more than just another servant but paid better. Nobles and gentry went to the theater. Some slept with actors and, later, actresses, even had them as longtime courtesans or catamites. But they didn’t invite them to dinner. They didn’t…

They’ll drag “punk” Shakespeare to her Court for some shit or other. And show how badass he is by him being clever around her majesty and possibly getting in trouble and she saves his dumbass some how.

1. Tradespeople were not mixing with the gentry or nobility. And actors were considered even lower, having often to have their own separate churches and pubs. And no one cared where you went to school back then when considering class distinctions.

Hamish Bowles and Van Meter are known as happy diva-boosters. Van Meter has long gotten such female celeb article duty at Vanity Fair and other magazines precisely because of his ability to draw them out, yet never go for the “gotcha!”. He’s even been requested by female celebs.

Good points.

Agreed. In fact, both of us are doing just that right now.

You’ll be spending your time trying to explain the truth of the times to them to counteract the crap this show will tell them.

Yes! Christopher Marlowe was the real “punk”.