What does it even mean to “earn” money when that money comes from giving money you already had to someone who through luck and maybe hard work (not that it matters apparently) makes even more money, then owes you a portion of the money they made? Lottery winners “earn” money basically the same way. By choosing the…

The mendacity which seems to be required in order to be a “conservative” is truly mind blowing. Even by the most twisted illogical definition of the phrase, how can the government deciding how much they’ll buy something for be considered a “price control”? The government wouldn’t be telling companies how much they can…

The ability of the truly wealthy to “move or hide their assets around to minimize their exposure” isn’t some immutable property of their assets. As you kind of allude to, it’s a function of purposeful choices our society, and most of the rest of the developed world, has made over the last few decades under the…

So I’m clear about your position, your argument is political/institutional and not operational, right? You aren’t arguing that in a world where any plan could pass congress/be signed on the president’s desk, a multi-payer system is better at lowering health care costs and insuring the most people than a single payer…

Just the first 3 minutes of that race was insane. There were soooo many utes on the grid it looked like there was no way they could all race around the circuit without taking each other out. And that’s exactly what happened. By 2:05 someone gets pushed on to the shoulder during an easy corner just from the sheer…

The “you can’t balance bill patients you see through our program” will be part of the single payer’s “offer”. Or maybe they’ll allow some amount of balance billing? The point is the single payer can enforce whatever stipulations they want for providers who see patients the single payer is paying for. Again, under M4A…

I’m sure I don’t get what it takes to teach students doing rotations, but why do people need to pay the same cost for the last 2 years of med school as the first 2 years when only the first 2 years are actually like classroom school stuff?

It’s weird. Do they actually not understand the time lines are for phasing in once the law has been passed? Or is it a purposeful attempt to muddy the waters and make things look too “impossible” to even be worth trying?

That’s a silly misstatement of the interconnected price problem caused by having a multi-payer private insurance system and many providers.

LOL. If they actually hear the thruth, that “losing” private insurance doesn’t mean losing their preferred provider, a majority support Medicare For All.

But your original point was “bad” because it didn’t consider the problems with alternatives to M4A. Thus, saying “M4A or nothing” might not be “reductive nonsense”. Instead it might be an accurate summation of how to achieve the goals you identify when one considers all the relevant factors like political viability,…

The difference is immaterial to an owner. Neither can pay out excess revenue to shareholders. And you get that providers and insurance companies have people who receive returns as owners that don’t work there, right? You understand what capitalism is? Like, I don’t have to go down to the Pfizer hq and do my…

Which is why I would say such a policy would need to include provisions that insurance companies, as well as healthcare providers, cannot be run as for-profit entities, must limit out-of-pocket cost increases to (X amount) per (X timeframe), etc. There’s already precedent for these types of control in the ACA

Putting aside survey data which shows a large majority considers the Democratic party more “trustworthy” when it comes to health care, the gop couldn’t kill the pre-existing condition laws. They tried but people who aren’t insane right wing nut jobs didn’t believe them when they said their law would be as protective,…

Um, it’s completely different. Do you not understand the difference between providers being told by a government agency “here is what we’ll pay, you can take it or leave it” vs. telling insurers and providers “this is what you can charge and this is what you can accept you’ll pay”?

Everyone would be “on” Medicare For All. Who would the doctors or hospitals see if they don’t see Medicare For All patients? Even if a portion of the current system existed, it would be massively reduced in size because employers would no longer provide part of peoples’ compensation as health care contributions…

Medicare “For All” means everyone will be on the Medicare plan. Who will the providers treat if they don’t accept Medicare patients? The tens of millions of concierge medicine patients who can pay cash at rates higher than Medicare For All rates? Or will they go practice in those other first world countries with…

That’s a legitimate issue. Employer based insurance is only “cheap” because we all subsidize it through the tax system. If the tax subsidy was removed then the cost of the insurance would shoot up and employees would become exposed to an even great amount of the actual cost.

Do you want republicans telling you what procedures can be covered by Medicare for all?

You understand under the German system, the Federal Ministry of Health “determines provider fees under substitutive, complementary, and supplementary PHI (private health insurance-me) through a specific fee schedule”, right? Do you get what that means? What do you think the chances are that providers and insurers will…