Zumwalt’s unexcellency as you put it, is an effect not of the design, but of the implementation. Congress and the Navy have repeatedly cut the program back to the point where it has only a tiny fraction of the original design capability. They have done this in order to finance vessels of a class it was meant to…

It’s broken down twice and it hasn’t even made it to its home port yet. It’s not quite the Titanic but it’s well beyond “growing pains.”

Land Attack, like with its guns that have no ammo?

Growing pains, like having no real anti-ship capability.

Perhaps “watertight” wasn’t included in the spec sheet.

We supplied the Saudi’s the bombs they’re using to blow up hospitals in Yemen.

NATO? Sure. And? See a Russian vessel off the coast of US?

I have been wondering the same thing about the United States. And then I see the condition of our roads, our schools, our railways, our airports, our healthcare system, and our children, and I’m like OH, that’s where we got the money to fight wars all over the world for fifteen years.

Pfff they didn’t have the revenue the first time around...didn’t stop ‘em that time either

“It is doubtful they all, or any for that matter, hit their intended target.” Really Tyler?... Why do you keep peddling that nonsensical agrument that ‘dumb’ bombs are useless? Yes they don’t have the precision accuracy of a PGM but you seem to think they’re as inaccurate as WWII bombers.

By the way and FYI, saying on inet that you’re “I’m ex AF” means nothing.

You’re not annoying me with 50 years old jokes. The only thing is little annoying about you that you have so strong complex about Russia and it make you write countless (and mostly pointless) comments in post like that.

Go read about the Georgia Conflict again. Current situation relating to space is a no-brainer Russian dominance, is NASA even launching anything?

from what I can tell, the US equivelent is not one system, but 3.

Yes to defeat the system you would need the advanced weapons which only America has, While countries like Turkey don’t have them. Also an assault to the system would have to be total and dedicated act of War with many aircraft and ships participating.

Yeah I know the tale. When a billion of dollars worth of military equipment start to falter, blame it on bad luck . But let’s assume, for the arguments sake, that the Serbs, with their stone age technology, indeed got lucky, how does the F 35, which is not stealthier than the F-117, stack against the Russian air…

lol sounds like the F-35 and F-22. Quasi-production prototypes in numbers too small to really matter or deploy effectively.

Well, the reaction of F-35 fanboys is, simply put, hilarious. They probably assume the Russians will attach slingshots and wooden cannons to their warplanes, meanwhile giving still combat unproven F-35 almost mythical status. Remember F-117 ? It was hailed so stealthy, almost invisible, until it plowed a field in…

Hey, opinions are like assholes, everyone has one :). Looks are so subjective - one can’t ever make the other party change their mind, as beauty is in the eye of the beholder

Not talking capabilities here - just looks, and I still think that SU is beautiful.