Have you priced out a new replacement engine or trans these days, and the labor it takes to swap engines and transmissions? Engines haven’t been $2k installed for a reman since the days of 2 bolt carburated/TBI Chevy 350s. And the current crop of 8,9,and 10 speed automatics and CVTs often run about $3,000 and up just…

Fair point, but it’s what I have four years of real world experience with by now. I didn’t say my situation was typical or representative of anyone else’s - there’s no way any one situation could be; there’s too much regional variation with gasoline and electricity costs.

But if you use national average MPG - (26) and…

Everyone has to crunch their own numbers, dude. And that doesn’t change that the headline of the article - the broad generalization that “driving an EV 100 miles now costs more than a gas car” - no qualifiers - is pure bullshit, especially when you look at the cost assumptions they made, which are also bullshit.

All…

Your failure to get the point is the embarrassing part, but keep going, nobody is stopping you! :P

Nope.
*Insurance cost - similar
*Charging install - covered by GM, up to $1,250
*Charger itself is $350 on Amazon for a 32A Level 2 unit - which is completely portable, not hardwired, comes with you if you move, and will work on any new non Tesla EV.
*Purchase price - similar or cheaper - new Bolts are $26k now, and if…

Yup, absolutely. My off peak rate is 25 cents per kwh, and off peak here is midnight to 3 pm.

You can use the US national average of 26mpg combined if you’d like, and the EV still costs substantially less than half the cost of a gas car to fuel at that mileage, using the average US electricity cost of 16 cents per kW and the average US cost of a gallon of gas.

Our Bolt got a $600 cash rebate for buying a charger/paying for outlet installation. Our charger outlet installation was $250 and the juicebox charger was free (used, charges fine, broken wifi, we don’t care about that, and note that new Bolts and Bolt EUVs currently get a $1,250 credit towards a residential charging…

I was comparing a $28k actual cost 2019 Bolt to a $29k actual cost 2018 Buick 2.0T wagon, both bought new at the end of 2018. The Bolt is now cheaper, at $26k without incentives, and around $19k if you qualify for the current reinstated tax credit, which won’t last beyond the next few months IIRC.

That is the actual combined mileage of my 2.oT gas car, over two years of combined city and highway usage. Over the last four years, added up I have spent considerably *more* time waiting in line to refuel my gas car at Costco than recharging my EV, which is done at home 98% of the time. And whatever time I have spent…

If you’re a PGE customer you can pay .25 per Kw off-peak (midnight to 2 pm for your entire house, not just your charge connection), under the residential EV charging plan - EV2A - which uses your existing meter. You only have to give PGE the VIN of your EV. 

(Updated January 5, 2023)

2021 Subaru Impreza Sport 5-Door 4 cyl, 2.0 L, Manual 5-spd Regular Gasoline

Not made up numbers, real numbers. The US average MPG is 26, and the EV is still less than half the cost to fuel than a gas car at that MPG, using the US average electricity cost per Kw.

You know the average combined mpg of a car in America is 26, right? And even if you use 26 instead of 22 mpg and the national average cost of electricity per Kw and a gallon of gas the EV is nearly 2/3rds cheaper to fuel.

And for context, the EPA combined rating for the 2018 Jeep Renegade, Ford Escape and VW tiguan,…

Well, y’know, that and the 9 different models with three different engines that all have premature engine failure issues and tend to catch fire in the process.

And, you know, the million-plus Santa Fe, Soul, Sportage, Sonata hybrid, Sorento, Optima, Tucson, Elantra, Veloster and Forte cars with the Theta II, Nu and Gamma engines that prematurely fail and catch fire.

Now, at least 9 different models with three different engines of Kias and Hyundais - millions of their newer cars - have premature engine failure, and often catch fire in the process, while just about every car they built from 2016 to 2021 is so easy to steal (due to corporate penny pinching choices) that owners…

Uh, what?

$11.60 is 1.6X $7.25.
60% higher.
If you think that’s not much, let’s see your reaction to your landlord raising your rent from $725/month to $1160/month.

For the average 12,000 miles per year driven in the US, that’s the difference between paying $870 for electric and $1,392 for gasoline.

Per year. Every…

Yeah. People forget sometimes that promises (and ZEV adoption laws, too) do not automatically equal reality. California state ZEV requirements were already set and then rolled back and then basically eliminated (see: EV-1, Ranger EV, Rav4 EV) when it became obvious the technology wasn’t ready.

And the average US fleet…