dwimby44
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dwimby44

Your emotions appear to be preventing you from being rational about this. You see gun owners as the enemy - an enemy that doesn’t want safe neighborhoods, that they are all some ignorant wife-beaters. That kind of attitude prevents you from working with gun owners towards any change or resolution. Gun owners are

Oh, I love counterarguments. Thanks for sharing. The article is right in many ways - many of Chicago’s gun laws were deemed unconstitutional or likely unconstitutional and therefore stricken down. However, that isn’t what caused violent crime to rise - it is wrong to take two isolated data points and automatically

Those aren’t lax - they are normally. For instance, most states don’t require a permit to purchase a firearm. It is a pointless hurdle to make people go through and to collect more fees. You already have to pass a background check to purchase a firearm, so necessitating a firearm purchase permit is pointless.

What am I, a statistician? There are mass shootings like San Bernardino where they weren’t, but you start to split hairs. In San Bernardino, the shooter had to have someone else purchase the firearms as the shooter couldn’t purchase them themselves. In the case of the Sandy Hook shooting, the guns were stolen from the

How does it feel when the truth doesn’t fit your beliefs, yet you’re unwilling to change those beliefs as a result? Just curious.

Odd, I don’t remember suggesting that. You are apparently quoting someone else.

Agreed.

People like me? Yeah that’s a way to get me to accept your position....

I can’t be responsible for your lack of understanding. Accorndig to the media, the church shooter was shot by the citizen. He dropped his Ruger AR, got in his vehicle, and fled. It was originally reported that the citizen shot at the church shooter, but it was unknown if he hit him. Law enforcement updated the story

If enacting laws has virtually no effect on criminal actions, then it is pointless and silly. Even worse, these laws disarm otherwise law abiding citizens preventing them from defending themselves, thereby raising violent crime rates.

Cops do stop additional people from being shot (in some cases we have to presume that, in other cases it is obvious). Likewise, it is reasonable to presume that the citizen in this case likely saved additional lives by shooting at the church shooter and chasing him until law enforcement arrived. To utterly refuse to

Awesome. So you’re proposed solution is.....?

Sure - but the thugs doing the shooting and the thugs that they target aren’t likely to qualify for or bother with a carry permit. It’s a thugs life...

This is a false narrative. Why not blame Mexico’s gun violence on the US then? We’re neighbor after all right? If Indiana is the issue, then why isn’t gun violence a problem in Ohio or Kentucky? I guess poverty, poor employment opportunities, broken homes, poor education, gangs, etc. have nothing to do with the issue

So... if you disagree with someone they are a Russian troll and/or racist? Fascinating.

Indiana has control measures like all states. Are you suggesting that criminals are legally buying guns from Indiana? This is like suggesting that gun violence in Mexico is because of run laws in the US. If you refuse to acknowledge the source of a problem and instead blame proxies, then the problem will never be

LOL - yeah... that’s the problem. If people can’t accept the real reason that violent crime happens in Chicago and instead want to outsource that blame to 3rd parties like the State of Indiana, then the problem will never get better.

The media reported that a citizen shot at the church shooter as he exited the church. The attacker got in his car and fled, followed by the citizen and another citizen that he flagged down to follow the church shooter. The driver, in pursuit of the church shooter, was on the phone to 911 to lead police to the church

Ummm - you saw that she hit him first right?