Agreed. When they would make one, they would design it with Europe in mind. In Europe only the elderly and people who want a Prius in a more conventional package buy a Auris/Corolla. Toyota is a huge underdog in this segment and assuming it is as good as the competition (but not better) they won't sell many.
In Europe you will struggle to find a car with more displacement than 3.0-3.2L displacement. Especially nowadays, where almost everything has been turbo charged, more than 2.0L will be relatively hard.
Exactly! I’d argue everything over 2.0L is ‘big’. Especially nowadays.
‘You just put a KKK in your SS. How could you sink this low, your father was Jewish!’
I think VW would rather call the Tiguan, extended Tiguan, Touareg, T-Cross and T-Roc
Crossovers SUVs. The Golf variant and Passat variant are obviously wagons. But yes. What else had you expected?
Jeep? Most of them Renegades, the Jeepified Fiat 500X. They are built in Italy and mostly sold to Italians too.
half of your staff are millennials
I love how the Dutch text raves about the ‘remarkable’ acceleration and ‘unsurpassed’ handling. It had a 0.6L twin with 19 hp, swing axles and leaf springs.
You cannot even get a Jetta in Germany. Those are all built in and built for North America. And China. Quite similar to that big yet cheap VW you get in the US. That’s NA and China only as well.
American cars are of no interest to Europe.
It has been a veeery long time since the last time I heard Swamp Thing...
The SEAT was dated when it was new (1991), it was built on the mk2 Golf (1983) platform. The other two are much newer and as a result were even more dated. I’d argue the SEAT wore it best.
No, the Fit and Civic were the core of the problem. The Fit always looked (still does) like something only a septuagenarian could drive. Coincidentally septuagenarian were the only ones buying them too.
Usually sold as a wagon (at least here), so they are more practical than the liftback Prius as well.
You’re not rude. It’s all quite logical. Honda in Europe is similar to, I don’t know, Peugeot in the US in the 1980s. A big manufacturer elsewhere that is a niche player here. A manufacturer without the cars that the market wants, and with management that is unwilling or incapable of doing what it is needed to crack…
It’s a chicken and the egg story really. Honda used to be big in Europe. In the 80s and 90s. Around 2000 they decided to focus on other markets and stopped offering competitive cars in Europe. Competitive as in: cars that consumers wanted for a price people were willing to pay. Result: the Honda market share was …
They have become a niche manufacturer. In my native the Netherlands they sold fewer cars than brands like Porsche, Alfa Romeo and Smart. In 2018. For every car Honda sells, Suzuki sells 8. Honda simply stopped offering cars people wanted, combined with inflated prices. So they became uncompetitive. The Civic I posted…
Honda gave up on Europe in 2000 already.
This is a 2012 ST wagon...
Yes. ST diesel wagon even.