Ain't that most of us, though.

Female, too. I've incited a dozen friends to watch this; each one came up with Eleanor/Tahani seemingly independently.

Look, try elsewhere. If you don't really see how an unexpected and rather forceful invasion might seem like just cause, for a people who've been facing Reapers and Mountain Men for however long - then, good luck to ya.

Currently, yeah :) I'm personally partial to several of their shows produced around that year, but as always, YMMV.

It's pretty good. Depends on what you normally like, and you have to make some allowances for its low budget and YA nature (the latter is more relevant in the beginning), but once you get past that you get a very dark, entertaining show that can get staggeringly complex considering the network it's on.

Wow.

He also killed two guys during the disease / quarantine, IIRC. But your point stands.

In the absence of quality turn-around, the best they could do is sweep it under the rug so we can know that it was a failed plotline and that it shouldn't reflect on the rest of the series. We'll see, I guess. Hopefully other plots will pay off and divert my attention long enough.

I was actually simultaneously disturbed, terrified and excited when the massacre happened, precisely for the reasons you cite. I even recommended the show to a friend based on that development alone, as their concern was with the CW tradition of teenage love - and I could point to what The 100 did with it and say,…

Veering awfully close to shipping territory here, we are - but yes, I thought the romancing was done, or at least buried very deeply as characters deal with, I don't know… constant crisis and danger.

I feel like I've overdone my posting re: Finn in this comment section, so I'll just say I agree 100%.

The worst for me is the repeated Lincoln torture. The first season, when these white kids stripped and tortured him while rambling about how he doesn't even speak English, I nearly stroked out. And then he was tortured again and turned into a cannibalistic beast man. Maybe now he'll catch a break.

I must admit, I'm mad this happened. I'm mad because, while Finn was not my favorite, he was interesting and could become more. This particular direction - not outright villainy, just lunacy and then vague guilt - leads to a large number of us thinking that there is no other place for him to go but to be killed off.…

That's also been bothering me. Clarke would sacrifice for the collective, or a family member, or (maybe) to repent for her own actions. Even if she is a bit of a compulsive savior, she's a leader and she knows she's needed far more than Finn. So, yes, this is probably promo magic being played on us.

It stuck with me that they were both doing it. But while the scene was still playing I thought Finn started obviously speaking about himself through speaking about Lincoln, and Clarke just cut it short to show him that she knows what he's thinking.

I do see that, which is why I say their reactions are terrible for the characterization - I don't buy them (which doesn't mean they're not what the writers are selling me).

Lincoln was tortured and, based on what we've seen, had his mind chemically altered. Reavers are not considered human in show canon, they're barely sentient.

I'm as flabbergasted about Murphy as anyone, but the Bellamy thing was unintentional; he had no way of knowing what the consequences were. A horrible act still, but it's no equivalent to murdering unarmed and fenced-in people en masse. Compare and contrast with Clarke having charred 300 warriors to death to save her…

I'd watch a Raven and the engineering crew spin-off. The infrastructure of a post-apocalyptic society, with hard laughs, drinks and awesome geeks making stuff happen. Diplomacy to the left.

We're meant to see it as him losing his goddamn mind, I believe.