I agree with just about everything you’re saying, but I’m not talking about in the now. I’m talking about in 30+ years, especially as smartwatches continue to take to take off with health monitoring features. Outside of the embarrassing habit of a few who wear a mechanical on one wrist and a smartwatch on the other…

You’ve kind of proved my point of you think the intrinsic quality of a Rolex is any better than its competitors. That’s their brand, and both Rolex and Porsche have certainly sold their brands as a lifestyle over the decades.

Hey, I’ve owned both the Submariner and a 911. I’m just saying, I remember the ‘90s, and the Harley bubble back then wasn’t all that different in that middle-aged, dorky buyers were wanting to live the lives of tough guys vicariously through a motorcycle experience. Plus, mechanical watches as a whole are…

Ironically, the smartphone has essentially become the new “pocket watch” in that regard, and these days, if a younger person wears a watch at all, it’s usually a smartwatch. Apple managed to become the world’s largest wristwatch maker in just a couple of years.

“Harley’s problem is that the ‘culture’ was the only thing its bikes had going for them — otherwise they were expensive, boring, unreliable, and unremarkable.”

That’s a bold thing to say with the hybrid 911 already on the horizon for 2019. Sports cars are about to enter their “quartz” era.

Even the wristwatch is debatable. It’s only been a thing for about 90 years. See: my pocket watch.

Don’t worry, it’s coming for all mechanical watches. :)

Oh, I know all about Rolex. The thing is that Rolex pivoted towards becoming primarily a jewelry maker in the late ‘70s (and the prices started reflecting that,) but they were still actively being used by professional adventurers for a bit longer, and I think we’re still running on the fumes from that era. The move…

Yeah, and it’s incredible to think that the pocket watch was in vogue four times longer than the wristwatch, at least so far. Wristwatches were still largely considered unfashionable until the 1920s-30s.

My wife is apparently very, very healthy.  I’ll have to let her know.

Point being, what middle-aged guys with a little money think is cool today very well may not be cool in 30 years, especially now that Porsche is essentially a sports-minivan company, and we’ll be fully electric at that point.

Sure, vintage Harley Knuckleheads still bring in some money, too, but I’m really referring to how people see the brands in the future and whether they’ll still be “cool.” When the majority of Porsches on the road today are 4-door kid haulers, and the majority of Submariners are seen on the wrists of middle-aged guys…

That’s debatable, but at least you wouldn’t be embarrassed to be seen in it.

I have to wonder if we’ll see the same with things like the Rolex Submariner and Porsche 911 in another 20 years.

Maybe they’ll buy the desk jockey’s some fun toys, too.

I wouldn’t go that far. They’re at the top for electronic steering, but it still isn’t as good as hydraulic. 

“Maybe I’m just getting old and lazy...”

Yeah, and considering this Mustang is priced over $50K equipped, I can’t imagine choosing it over this shorter option, which looks to be about the length you’re asking for:

You just need more practice: