She was planning to do lawyer shit in court while holding a baby? That cannot possibly be a good idea.

Wow, this comment is just so disappointing. So much hate.

This comment is great. it juxtaposes one type of exclusion Jezebel is known for with another type of exclusion Jezebel is against. Bravo.

Right on the last point, the first 2, not so much. But do you want to understand their motives, or just assigning one that suits your narrative?

What are you talking about? You're flaming him right now.

Right, but looking at pictures is still not even the same type of thing as rape. You can't hurt someone by looking at them. Unless you're Scott Summers. And even he can't hurt someone by looking at a PHOTO of them.

The peeping analogy is not appropriate. You are not physically invading that person's space or privacy. More importantly, you cannot be prosecuted for looking at photos.

What if you don't give a fuck about how violated these women feel? I'm not saying I don't, but I'm saying is that if you want people to stop, you need more ammunition than "it is wrong and you should feel bad". Because this is the real world, you need live rounds, the moral argument is not going to cut it.

I don't agree. The peeping tom makes the effort to go and actually try to view the woman naked. The person who looks at naked pictures that are emailed to her or see them on one of the websites she frequents is not making the effort.

But what if a gust of wind blows open your neighbour's blinds and you see her naked. Is that wrong? What if you keep looking? Is it wrong then? What if I get an email from my friend saying "check this out", and boom, naked pics of celebrities. Am I wrong?

Not at all. At no point have I even said that. Childbirth is a huge deal, things change afterwards. Better to know beforehand. Facilitates better preparation and such.

So you're hoping that the fact that mothers have enough to worry about will make the changes less real?

Oooh, sorry. You probably know a lot more than I do then. I left Obs/Gyn after 3 months... Obstetrics is a medical specialty in the same way Captain Planet is a Military Genius. In any event, I'm not hypothesizing. I'm also not serious about the obstetrics comment, I'm in Internal Medicine.

That is also absolutely not true. Anywhere the baby touches can get torn. I've seen someone get the hood of her clitoris ripped open. And while many tears are to the perineum, many clinicians will report seeing lacerations to the vagina wall just as often.

What?

What you are saying is simply not true. Pelvic floor muscle stretching is something that happens in all pregnancies. And it is most likely that it never returns to the way it was before. Just like how the uterus of a person who has had a child is remarkably different from one who has not. There are permanent…

A tear is just one factor that contributes to a "looser" vagina. The main contributer is the pressure of the presenting part of the fetus on the pelvic floor. The chronic pressure causes stretching of these muscles, decreasing tone and "tightness". How much the previous tone can be approximated after birth depends on…

This makes absolutely no sense. Vaginas don't dilate before birth.

A basic google search will reveal that the vagina is in fact permanently loosened by childbirth.

He's not wrong though. If you and your partner are both STD free, and neither of you sleep with anyone else, no one will ever get an STD. That's common sense. What the problem is?