Came here to post about Tesla. Their pricing is horrible - I understand adding the EV tax incentive, because that is genuine discount, but the whole reducing the price by your average gas savings is a fucking scam.

My favorite was at a Lexus dealership, when they told us every car they get they equip with a special flashing brake light and protective paint cover, both of which add $1,700 to the price. I asked if those could be removed or if I can order a car without. They said no. I left. 

Ditto, I love mine. The problem with it ‘always being in the shop’ (actually in there now, for the first time, for a power seat issue) is that Alfa mechanics are few and far between. When I dropped mine off, they told me it would be a week or more because there was a Quad already in there for a full engine…

Counterpoint: Let’s NOT call it a hatchback for fear of ruining the hatchback category. Car manufacturers are trying to convince us we need bigger and bigger cars; call the Macan a hatch and pretty soon CUVs will be hatches and we’ll no longer have true hatches. It’s a small CUV, like an X2 or a Q3. Subaru is already…

You’re an angry elf. We have an Alfa and a Volvo - the Volvo is touchscreen everything, the Alfa has a screen but the infotainment is more like BMW, where you have a wheel that selects and clicks, HVAC controls and seat heater are buttons. So I’ve got it both ways.

I remember the first time, but it was relatively uneventful. My favorite drive with my Dad when I still had my learner’s permit was in my freaking awesome ‘88 Toyota Camry (that subsequently died before I got my license). I was pulling out of a parking lot and rolling (hand cranks FTW) up my window after inserting my…

My guess is that the ambient air temp is simply too hot to run an air-cooled engine

I don’t have them (yet), I was exploring possibilities for my Stelvio but I haven’t pulled the trigger yet. Everybody on the forums loves them - better fit than WT, better material, nicer looking, etc. Only downside is price. 

Plus, the descriptions keep you entertained for hours:

The 2014 Tesla Model S 85 was purchased in January 2018 for $61,478.50

You can find those mats all over e-Bay by straight from China retailers and they’re ridiculously cheap. Lots of people swear by them. Counterpoint, though - they’re fugly.

Weather Tech has lost their touch. The new king of floor mats is Canadian and goes by the name TuxMat

I must be missing something. How does ABS help keep your intended line around a corner? You’re not braking, ABS shouldn’t come into play. Do you mean traction control?

This. No matter how fun a bike is, it’s not worth dying. Bikes still make up more than 10% of vehicle fatalities, despite them only accounting for about 5% of vehicles on the road. I don’t care how great of a rider you are or how much protection you wear, you’ll never beat a distracted driver in a 2-ton car traveling…

I don’t understand why the principal argument is ‘You never need AWD.’ What’s wrong with having power to 4 wheels? Why do the Aventador, 918 and Veyron have AWD? It probably doesn’t have to do with snow.

Modern AWD systems (like the SH-AWD in Acura’s) that use torque vectoring will help you around a corner if you lose traction..

He must have been recently banished, RN hasn’t always been in the gray’s. 

Millions of people don’t have access to the requisite DMV database(s) necessary to run a license plate and get a name and/or address. It’s also illegal. 

You can get an AWD Tahoe LS for $50k. Granted, that’s base level, but the Tahoe is a significantly more luxurious car, and you’re going to be able to find them with significant markdowns. You can also get a more respectable and better looking loaded 4Runner for $45k. 

Yeah. $50k is a ridiculous amount of money for a Honda Pilot, especially since the top trim Elite won’t be regularly dealer stocked and you’ll have to special order it. 3-row SUVs are f-ing stupid and priced as such. Suck it up and buy a minivan if you have to, or survive with a 5-seat SUV like the rest of us.