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Sorry, the corrections weren't showing up for me. Kinja sucks at the best of times but it's especially crappy on phones.

LOL what? So David Lynch should change his name?

This while story is amazing. I want answers to all your questions as well as the 765 other question I want to ask this woman.

I grew up watching mob movies and Woody Allen movies with my parents and siblings. Goodfellas is in my top 10 movies of all time.

I agree with you. But I guess I also think that among all that and the other stuff in the article, is the idea that while there may be an innate sense of being female that of shared by those of us who identify as women, that’s not the same as gender essentialism. The fact that she’s batshit and a dino-feminist doesn’t

No, I said both were hyperbolic, and I said that the old school feminist raised some good points, not that all her points were valid. And I still do because I don’t believe in gender essentialist arguments because you can’t say you agree with them as long as it’s women making them but not when it’s, say, that Harvard

I love the word “moist” - it appeals to my inner 12 year-old- and I don’t care what the squeamish detractors say. It's a fucking great word. MOIST.

Exactly. I can see how in a lot of cases there is a double standard - teachers are held to a higher standard because of the whole “shaping young minds” thing and while that’s true, it’s only ever brought up when a teacher fucks up, but doesn’t translate into better pay and work conditions that recognise the importance

Yeah, I agree that a model’s size is irrelevant to their profession.

Shit you’re right I typed Bruce instead of Caitlyn out of habit not because of anything else, it was an oversight, nothing more. And I never said she wasn’t wrong to be calling Caitlyn out, I said that in what she’s writing there are some good points but mostly i just pointed out that I think the original post was

Shit I didn’t even notice I typed Bruce instead of Caitlin, that was an oversight and only due to my not being used to her new name yet. Don’t read into it anything more than that.

I never said you couldn’t criticize. But there’s a difference between criticizing and calling for papers to stop publishing opinions and views you don’t like, or overstating their threat and acting like humanity needs protecting from opinions we disagree with. That to me falls into the thought

Yeah but the people who agreed with her article already held those beliefs anyway. I just don’t see the inherent danger in an op-ed and I dont like the alarmist tone of Miller’s post and many commenters who are saying the NYT shouldn’t have published it. It’s an opinion piece, and the very nature of op-ed pages is to

Exactly! Or brilliant and highly qualified women who don’t get taken seriously at work because people assume they’re ditzes because they look super feminine and people attribute inner traits based in appearance, or any other women whose outside doesn’t “match” the inside at least according to people’s narrow

This is true. And while I’m in no way comparing it to the experiences faced by trans women or diminishing that in any way, I can’t help but feel like in many ways it is similar to the way many cis women are treated when they don’t conform to traditional or expected gender roles, whether because of their appearance or

But in many ways it’s a double standard all women have to deal with, don’t you think? On the one hand, trying to dispel gender stereotypes and move away from traditional gender roles and expectations, while on the other wanting equality that recognises that men and women are different and that, like you say, there is

Amazing.

That was my initial reaction. Now, after mulling it over for a bit, I kind of think both Burkett and Sarah Miller are exaggerating and letting their emotions get the best of them. I mean, in some ways, Burkett makes some good points: we didn’t come this far in rejecting traditional gender roles and stereotypes and

Joan Cusack.

Don’t you mean iWoman™ ?