It does look significantly better with the actual bowtie grille. And the GMC version looks another step better than that.

Still far uglier than the other two competing trucks in its class. And I’m a GM guy, so that’s saying something.

Agreed 100%.  My original point was that there are a lot of work trucks out on the roads that many people don’t notice.  I still stand by my support of the OP that most miles driven by trucks are work trucks.

I think you misread my comment... the ones you see in parking lots are NOT work trucks since the work trucks are out driving tools, equipment, trailers, etc. to the work site.

Nobody is commuting to an office job in a work truck.

That makes total sense to me. So for gearheads, an offset logo would suggest that the car is upgraded in some way, since it was an “add-on” item, so to speak.

I dig it!

Yes! I cannot stand the badge on either truck. And both look dumb with that “CHEVROLET” written across the grille bar.

That said, I think I dislike the overall truck a lot less than most - especially the half ton.  With a proper chevy bowtie in the middle, the half tons look decent.

Normally, I’d agree with you that offset badges are good. All of the examples you posted are cars with attractive grille/badging.

Nope... what?

It was at an angle and/or really tiny, I believe.

Tax deductible doesn’t mean free... it just lowers your taxable income.  You still have to pay for the thing.

He said “Despite what you see in the mall parking lot”.

You don’t see many work trucks in parking lots because they’re constantly on the move... working.

He said “Despite what you see in the mall parking lot”.

You don’t see many work trucks in parking lots because they’re constantly on the move... working.

The comment about those with “vested interests in selling more fossil fuels” is an interesting take which I hadn’t thought of or noticed before.

You’re not wrong about that but it would have to be a perfect storm to destroy an engine, I’m thinking.

Fuel technology and fuel *tank* technology.  I don’t think there’s a single metal tank in a modern day passenger car.  If there is, it’s likely coated with something to prevent rusting by the humidity and moisture in the fuel.

You’re drinking coffee from the top, though.

Modern engines have the ability to detect even slight detonation at any load. If it starts to knock, then the computer can adjust the parameters of combustion to eliminate the knock and avoid damage.

I know you mentioned these, but I’ll never forget having to use these on my 1989 Mazda 626 manual (first car).  I hated them.  But they got the job done.  They still make me shudder.

NP205s are gear driven.

That’s what I said, no?

Yeah I’m *thinking* the thing bolted to the middle axle is basically a fancy (janky?) carrier bearing holder. The reason I’m guessing it’s so massive and gearbox-looking is that they probably used the bearing holders, seals, and input shaft of a transfer case and maybe even filled it with oil like a transfer case…