That conversation did and does exist around Nolan's movies. It's just not as important considering that Nolan's versions were a hundred times more successful at integrating the real world with the fictional world of Batman, and was far more thoughtful and consistent in exploring it's themes, including Batman's…

Rod Serling's Night Gallery!

No effing way. But wasn't there a female verson of Jimmy Olson in man of steel? Jemma Olson or something?

Yes, maybe when you boil him down, Batman is a violent sociopath who kills everyone. But while that side of Batman is present in the character and should be explored, it's not all that he is. Because the thing is, that version of Batman is a terrible character who is not worth liking. You have to keep in mind that…

I can understand why Batman would be motivated to kill Superman just based on what we saw in MOS, and the opening of the movie. I don't like it, but fine, killing Superman just based on that evidence looks justifiable. The problem is we're shown a version of Batman who doesn't need to justify murder. He's basically…

Yeah, it was incredibly dopey and got a big laugh in the theater, but I liked it. It was a small human moment that helped a lot, and the movie needed more of that.

Pretty much Sgt.Schlomo, pretty much.

So, just something to counter all the negative discussion, what did you guys like about B V S? I thought it was a shit-sandwich overall, so the little things that I liked stood out against all the shit.

Also, honestly Superman, referring to your own mother by her first name? That's just bad manners.

To be fair, he just killed a bunch of clowns, it's not like they were real people.

Or Superman's dead body being carried by Batman as a reference to Caravaggio's The Entombment of Christ?

You're watching a movie, not buying a used car. Yeah it was a pile of shit, but I wanted to see it for myself and have my own opinion.

Its always annoyed me that Batman apparently had machine guns and grenade launchers equipped to the batmobile and batbike in the Dark Knight. He didn't kill anyone as far as we know, but he blew up some cars that were pretty close to some kids.

If he'd said that Batman kills in Tim Burton's movies, then maybe he'd have a point, and people would have to argue that. He didn't though, cause he's an idiot.

Played memorably in Punisher:Warzone by Newman!

He sounds exactly like Jonah Hill. They're voice doppelgangers.

You know, I never got that. I don't see a lot of DKR in Burton's Batman. It looks very much like his own take, which then became pretty influential especially to the Paul Dini version.

Eh, children are easily bored.

DKR's Superman is painted as somewhat of a buffoon, but he's at least true to the character. He's not some angry demigod, he's just doing what he thinks is right. And it's very important to note that, in DKR, you can tell Superman doesn't really want to fight Batman, and he's holding back for the most part.

I sometimes wonder why people in movies never say "huh?" or "what?".