I get your point now.
But this article and discussion isn't really about this. It's about beauty ideals and how we feel about ourselves.

Honestly, probably because most actors don't go around in the same types of revealing outfits that women have to do, except in action roles when it calls for it (and when they work out 12 hours a day for 6 months first). Most actors in their normal roles and every day lives are on the slightly chubby side of things…

"A person with 80% bodyfat in swim gear who is comfortable in their skin and that person's friends respect them as a human being, and not as punchline of a joke is what we should strive for."

"Spy played on her weight some. A pillar of that story was that because
of the way she looked, she wasn't a potential love interest for dashing
leading man type Jude Law."
It wasn't really about her weight IMO, more about her demure and insecure personality. The role could literally have been done exactly the same…

"So it's very important we respect people of all shapes and sizes, but
that's a different message than putting a person with 80% bodyfat in
swim clothing saying "hey being this weight is great!""

"You look so unhealthy in that comfortable and situation-appropriate clothing, you should be ashamed of yourself!"

Non-Hollywood movies don't seem to have the same problem though. Just think it's interesting how as soon as art is more important than profit, there is less barrier to exclude actors that are seen as conventionally attractive.

Well, a lot of comedians do. Amy Schumer, Sarah Silverman, not to mention a lot of guys. She was not a "slob" at all in either of the movies I mentioned, and her size was a non-issue. In fact, Schumer or Silverman could've easily played both roles.

How does she demean herself with fat-shaming in "Spy" or "The Boss"? I haven't seen her other movies, but there's no fat-shaming in those at least.

I remember the quote that model Josie Maran's partner gave about her on DWTS. They were doing some exercise and she was exhausted almost right away. He looked at her and said "She is deceptively unfit". I thought that was pretty hilarious and telling.

I was talking about what is worse (has more impact on more people) from a societal standpoint. I wasn't comparing severity of disorders.

I thought dancing and lipsyncing were the height of humor these days.

Agreed with all of that, and have made a few comments about that myself.

That sucks. I do think that's less related to an actual issue with your appearance and rather the one thing that might stand out. Like someone with glasses being insulted with "four-eyes" doesn't mean that the person who said it really has a problem with people who wear glasses.

No.

I think BMI is a great way to measure progress for most people (I made that argument in the other thread) so I agree with you on that.

Height is definitely a thing, especially in America (I haven't really seen too many people care that much about it elsewhere), and it can't be changed. For both men and women: tall women and short guys often seem to have the same problems here.

"I think there is a discussion worth having on that part of it."

"Healthy weight" can be debatable. Why do you bring up health when you mean appearance?

Yeah, it comes off as very hypocritical.