You said everything I felt about the episode. I don't understand why the reviewer and the majority of commenters seem to think that Ragnar killing Yidu was shocking/unexpected. I saw it coming from the moment she introduced him to the drugs. It was very much in line with his downward spiral. Her fate was even more…

This is very interesting. Yours is the first explanation I can actually see behind her reasoning. Clarke is looking at Bellamy as herself and her experiences and feelings. She still carries guilt would like to be forgiven so she projects it onto Bellamy. Yes, this makes sense.

Same. I thought it was at least a year now.

I agree with everything Kyle said about unearned character work. The whole Pike situation aside, it was downright unbelievable that Clarke wasn't even a little upset (and I mean angry) that Bellamy had fucked up to such a huge degree. When they first met earlier in the season it was believable that he would feel upset…

I think so too.

YES to Outlander!

I agree. They just didn't show the fear/anxiety he would have had to have been experiencing for me to buy into it. Like the reviewer said it was all rushed. I get not trusting the Grounders again after Lexa left them all to die after making a pact with them but his left turn with Pike still felt a bit contrived to me.

YES to everything you said about TWD.

Yup, this is why I say his mother helped contribute to his death by not letting him live in reality. Always telling him to pretend he's not there. That whole family was fucked up long before Rick came on the scene.

They were damaged years before by their husband and father Pete.

This! Everybody's waiting on Rick to decide what they do next and nobody, including her sister and brother in law, raised the idea of looking for Beth?? But yet they'r all gung-ho to go to DC?. Come on writers. Do better.

So they were just gonna go off to DC without looking for Beth?? Nice sister you are Maggie.

What happened to the the other two kids who with her when Tyreese found them at the prison?

Exactly. Finn knew he had to die. Bellamy is like a main character I don't see them killing him off so how are they going to make this right?

How are they going to reconcile his actions in a satisfactory way? With Finn he was executed. But what are they going to do with Bellamy? I mean he has to be punished for what he did I just don't see how they're going to without killing him off the show. Sigh.

I just want to say right now that Bellamy's actions are worse than Finn's at this point. Finn was clearly in some sort of breakdown when he killed those people. Bellamy made a conscious choice. For that alone I hate what the writers have done to his character. I don't see how he can come back from this.

I too thought he was positioning himself to be a man on the inside. Alas, we were all stupefied when that turned out not to be the case.

I also think though that there's something we don't know yet about what happened to Farm Station. Pike keeps exchanging these looks with Monty's mother, like there's some secret that they share.

What I gathered from watching was Mars discovered the protomolecule, OPA (Dawes) hears about it and sends Julie to intercept it from what they thought was a cargo ship.

What I gathered from watching was Mars discovered the protomolecule, OPA (Dawes) hears about it and sends Julie to intercept it from what they thought was a cargo ship.