Octavia held up her own against certain warriors, that's for sure. But these were the very best warriors of each clan and she has only been training for maybe 4-5 months. Had she engaged in the battle from the beginning she wouldn't have stood a chance. I think this was the most believable way they could have had…

I have to say I disagree with those saying that the situations are entirely different because everyone is going to die in 10 days anyway, whereas in Mount Weather they weren't. While that is true, I don't think that is where the comparison is being drawn.

Yes but I still don't exactly get how that isn't a similar situation here. The world is going to end in 10 days anyway, and considering they were working under the notion that it is the "final" option, by smashing the chamber she basically sentenced everyone to death anyway (of course, we know there is another…

I think it's more the framing of the solutions. The issue is that every episode has the same formula, right down to identical dialogue. It is always framed as "this is the final option" cue in Clarke's obligatory "we don't have a choice" line and they follow that solution only to have to backfire and then start the…

I do love the irony of having Abby smash the chamber because she can't stand to test Clarke, even though it would potentially save humanity. And yet in s1 Abby allowed Clarke to be sent to the ground as a guinea pig to save the rest of the sky people. Love that consistency!

I liked the episode, but I don't like where the show is going. It's interesting that you mentioned how making Clarke a nightblood was a misfire because the reasoning was destroyed once Abby smashed the chamber. I'm almost positive the real reason Clarke has become a nightblood is so she can become commander by the end…

Opinions on Bellamy aside, I'm not sure how anyone could think Kane bringing up Bellamy's mother to him was a good idea. It's like if Bellamy ever told Octavia "Lincoln would be proud" there is no doubt she would snap at him, despite the fact she also has her fair share of blood on her hands. That moment wasn't about…

No one is denying that it's in Octavia's rights to forgive or not forgive Bellamy. What we are tired of is the fans ability to just ignore the horrible things Octavia does because she is mourning, while still insisting that Bellamy deserves absolutely nothing good or any form of absolution for his actions last season…

This just perfectly put it into words - thank you!

Also! Just to add on here but: "He makes decisions that have consequences, huge once, but this is glossed over and he doesn't face them. And that's why I do believe Clarke being in charge and Bell being her right hand man/general that also serves as emotional and moral support is when they were working best together.…

See here is my take (and maybe our takes on this are completely different): but I like Clarke having weaknesses. A well written character has flaws, they make mistakes, they aren't perfect 100% of the time and can't think of a quick solution in every dilemma they find themselves. The show sometimes writes Clarke as…

I don't even know what they're trying to do with Clarke. There is so much happening there where I'm not sure where to start. In a way, it's like the writers want her to be completely alone in the leadership position. I still don't know why they couldn't have had it that both Bellamy and Clarke that wrote the list but…

"Finally, I feel like Clarke is used up to prop up/help facilitate Bell and Jaha's redemptions by somehow needing them. And while it's true that she definitely deserves to have people supporting her fully, I do feel it is done at the expanse of her character (just look at s2 Clarke… I feel like she hasn't progressed…