also, the "animal rage" comment was a quote of what jay said — Julie Snyder said in the podcast, "but he also said “I’m feeling so much animal rage right now even you bringing this up right now." I get that if they had independently used that it's pejorative, but if you're quoting the interview subject, is that a fair…

can we stop referring to jay as a 17 year old kid? he had graduated the previous year — he was 18 or 19 which does make a difference in the law.