Just like actually having listened to The Deal with Jay ep of Serial and knowing who said what in that episode. Reading the Intercept journalist's very brief but enlightening interview in the NY Observer about how she came to get the interview with Jay. That kind of thing. It just seemed like really lazy…

Wow, this is the worst discussion of the Jay interviews. Does anyone involved with this podcast actually read anything to do with Serial or do even the most basic of research about anything they are talking about?