I mean… Wasn't Diggle doing the same thing? Everyone felt guilty. So did Felicity. But of course she gets singled out :p

IDK I think it perfectly represents how stressful his life has been the past 4 years :p

What makes me feel better about the show not treating Felicity as ONLY the love interest is the fact that they're actually doing a better job this year incorporating her life outside of Oliver into the show. If this happened last year, man I'd be damn afraid like you.

I don't think that there's a change in direction for Felicity's character. I think the show just emphasised WHY Felicity was with Team Arrow and it was to help people. Now that she feels uncomfortable on the team because it would be unfair to both her and Oliver, she has to find another way to do that. Thus mass…

oh my god if this is an Arrested Development reference, I want to give you a high five :p

I think Felicity has helped Oliver through a lot of personal conflicts, but when said personal conflicts hurt her, it's where she draws the line. Is it harsh? Sure. But given Felicity's history of the men in her life hurting her (Cooper, her father), I can see why Felicity would draw the line there. I really hope she…

This is why I hope the show just marries them off next season so we don't have to see anymore forced drama… Because I don't think that they'd do the whole 'will they won't they' once they're married.

Oh I think the writing was extremely poor in that episode, but alas, I can't fault the characters for that. All I can do is figure out what the writers were trying to get at and that's what I got.

Yeah… If you view her arguments in a vacuum they don't really hold weight. But if you take into consideration the show's history, there's a lot of reason why Felicity would walk away. Felicity has always forgiven Oliver for his stupid choices, but I saw this as the thing that broke the camel's back.

Ah, we have different views of her character then. I definitely think that when Felicity is emotional she hits below the belt (ex. Felicity/Ray's exchange in 310, Felicity telling Oliver he has no feelings in 302, Felicity walking away from Oliver 312, Felicity in 408). It's a definite character flaw I've seen in her…

I don't know how to take this… I'm not sure what you mean. I'm sorry I'm running on very little sleep so I may be less articulate right now!

Of course it's a hypothetical but it's not entirely baseless. Using Felicity as an example… Being in the fandom for 2 years I've noticed that while Felicity has been raked over the coals for relatively minor things in parts of the fandom like speaking ill of Waller while they were toasting her, or Moira at the funeral…

I agree that it's harder to get the PoV of a secondary character. But I think that refusing to understand said character's PoV but then judging said character is also rather unfair. But that's just my opinion!

I think Alasdair pointed out that some people don't understand Felicity's PoV because Oliver is the hero! He kicks ass! And because he does this he's allowed to be emotional, whereas because Felicity doesn't, she's considered pouty and whiny. It's sexist as hell tbh. Same thing happened with Laurel in S2.

I guess different folks different strokes :)

Just watched the episode and I wanted to say I totally understand where Felicity is coming from and I totally understand Oliver's position. I think they both desperately love each other, but Felicity is doing what's best for her right now.

I don't think it is only because I think people misinterpreted what Felicity said in the worst way possible when it wasn't really that bad. Felicity wanted to be included in the process, not the decision itself. Oliver shut her out of a huge major life decision that will affect him on a personal level for the rest of…

If you see my other posts I state that it wasn't about making a decision on William's status, it was about being a part of the process, letting Oliver let her be a partner and have her be a sounding board like he let Vixen/Diggle be a sounding board (of whose opinion he didn't solicit but still took to heart).…

To elaborate, for me, whenever someone uses the term 'pandering' = 'I'm not getting what I want!' which is why it's a big no for me in terms of arguments.

In the end I honestly don't care who you ship… Lauriver, fine, Sariver, fine… I just hate it when people use the word pandering (and 99% of the time they don't even use the term properly).Just a big no for me especially after the EPs and actors have stated ad nauseum that they do what they think is organic in terms of…