Ooh, yeah, I've seen that one. Really good.

It needs to be at least four entries and contrary to @avclub-1922cc1dc1286b56a2d99b7f1aa0630c:disqus's assumption, there is no mandate that these have to be for The Youngs.

I didn't say it doesn't have it — just that it's an early version that doesn't have quite the same level of cut-to-everyone-busting-a-crazy-move aggression. As I say in the essay, tropes aren't automatically invalidated just because I notice them — and as I don't say in the essay but generally believe, almost anything…

I totally did think of Kiss of Death while watching this! Though pretty much just in relation to Cage playing an unhinged crime boss.

I haven't seen Deadfall (need to catch up on some of my pre-Oscar Cage; have seen Valley Girl and Peggy Sue Got Married; have not seen Honeymoon in Vegas or Vampire's Kiss), and the only thing I'd heard about that was from an IMDB thread based on the character's name, which seemed dubious. But it does seem like he's…

Somewhere between hobby and senseless compulsion! Many of you folks are a lot of fun to mix it up with.

That sounds bonkers! It's funny, I've been to so many cartoons, and not just at press screenings, and in New York, where the wrong time/place can get you all kinds of unruly audiences of all ages. But I haven't been to many pure-pandemonium shows that I can recall. Plenty of kid-packed audiences, and sometimes noisy…

I do, though she's not yet of movie-watching age. I imagine I'll take her to a whole bunch of terrible movies that she might well enjoy. And I'll probably enjoy taking her to them! I'm looking forward to it. But that's not always the same thing as enjoying the movies themselves. Even pre-kid, though, I've been a…

Agreed. There are any number of musical scenes in animated movies that I think work fine — that one doesn't really function as a dance party scene, narratively or emotionally. The Lego Movie also ends on a great joke, rather than just having the characters dance around.

No, I specifically meant the roster of lyricists Menken has worked with *after* Ashman. Who was a goddamned treasure.

Very inaccurate. I'm not that nice of a person.

Great movies are not the only movies worth talking about, though. And I think everyone who talks about these computer animated movies as being exclusively for kids is being at least somewhat facetious. They are absolutely marketed to people beyond the five-year-old demo.

It's not saving me words if you tell me AFTER I've written it. Thanks for nothing, pal.

And yet at the same time:

Not that I recall, but it does include many weirdly accurate nature facts about owls among its slow-mo Zack Snyder shots of owl battles.

I'm sure this oft-reported phenomenon of children rapturously dancing in the aisles at the ends of movies has actually occurred, though I've never seen it myself (and I've been to dozens and dozens of cartoons over the years).

Caught again! As with all articles you personally dislike, it was actually written to trick people into clicking on it.

It's true; I hadn't thought of how movies aimed at children (and their parents) aren't worthy of any further thought or analysis.

In the body of the essay, I do in fact suggest this. Or at least that they're less annoying.

To be clear, real-life kids dancing at the end of a movie is adorable. Far moreso than most cartoon animals.