Their first record is especially good. I think their instincts are pretty smart/strong/sometimes strange (before their first record they were opening for TMBG pretty regularly and killing it) but they do sometimes veer towards, if not necessarily conscious trend-following, shifting their sound in a way that feels like…

If my daughter ever figures out that what will torture me the most is her getting really into "Kokomo," I'm toast.

Yeah, I mean, if I think I'm going to dislike something, I'm not going to be like, hey kid, wanna check out the Wiggles? Similarly, I'd be happy if she never heard about Alvin and the Chipmunks movies (once she reaches movie-watching age) but I won't cruelly deny them to her once she does. (Sorry, Wiggles. I'm sure…

She must have been SUPER into that scene in Focus.

I'm just saying, as someone who knows for a fact that my daughter doesn't care about Star Wars because she doesn't know what a movie is, I can non-guiltily enjoy the Star Wars pajamas her grandma got her that have Rey and BB8 on them, and I don't really worry about whether or not they mean anything to her (they don't…

Eh they're pretty good.

I am legit looking forward to the day when my kid inevitably wants to go to the arena show of some pop star I don't like very much, because I've never really been to a Taylor Swift/Katy Perry/whoever type of mega-production concert and I feel like it would be, at least, an interesting experience. Although of course a…

EXACTLY. I do think there's an assumption that it's somehow due parenting diligence to not expose kids to too much non-kids music and I've never really understood that.

No one's really talking about refusing to play anything for their kids. And while I can't speak for others, I'm talking about avoiding the sense that it's obligatory to seek out kid-specific music more or less from birth. If my kid comes home begging to play a Wiggles album, obviously I'm not going to refuse. I'm also…

I don't think anyone here actually talked about barring kids from listening to anything. Even the headline you hate so much doesn't actually say that.

Sometimes rhetorical questions, but not always.

That's kind of like saying that taking a 13-year-old to an arthouse movie theater is limiting their choices because a multiplex has 12 screens and an arthouse only has 4.

I mean, my kid is familiar with Minnie Mouse in the sense that she… has some Minnie Mouse toys and clothes. Which other people bought for her. It's not like she went to the store and picked out a bunch of Minnie stuff. My point is, until a certain age, kids are pretty much taking what's handed to them. Obviously it's…

How does giving children exactly what they want all the time benefit them? (Especially when some of them want to eat Styrofoam or run into the street.)

Yesssssssssss.

Not a bad joke but counterpoint: it's not as if my kid's Minnie Mouse onesie was something she personally picked out as part of her personal style aesthetic.

Nick tells a neat story about his kid unexpectedly gravitating toward the Velvet Underground and you hear a story about a kid being tied up and forced to listen to the VU on repeat until brainwashed.

Hmm, will try to rewrite to your liking. How about this:

You're not wrong.

I'm relieved to see you're not one of those weirdo TMBG fans who is SUPER into the kid stuff. I mean, I love a lot of their kid songs ("Sleepwalkers" is a top-20 TMBG track) and I hope my daughter enjoys that when she's a a little further along just because I know it's kid music I can enjoy too, but I definitely…