The older I get the worse those women become. But oh the musical in the middle. It was a surreal brilliant long form piece of love for Sutton Foster.

Well now I wish I hadn't watched it because it was completely excellent. Even if it never goes anywhere I'll have to think of it as a brilliant standalone piece by ASP.

I stream it online from the bad sites.

Absolutely but it just felt like casting misstep based on the view of how old veterans were when the writers/casting people were kids. I know logically he could have gone in his 30s/40s because the average age of soldiers in WWII was 29 but it still just felt odd.
That being said Michael O'Neil is such a good actor it…

Good point.

Ethelred wasn't really the King of Britain, but King of the English…

Yeah I'm British so it was ruined for me immediately. Like no one went on wikipedia or anything?

His 3rd wife gave him his son and the irony is of course his second daughter became one of the greatest Monarchs in British history.

The King Henry sketch was completely ruined by the fact the premise was he didn't have a male heir, which he did, King Edward VI.

I was on my way back from work, I gave a man directions at the bus stop, just which bus he could take etc. He wouldn't stop talking to me even when I had headphones in. When my bus arrived he followed me onto it, despite it going to the wrong place for him. Luckily I managed to pretend to fiddle with my change and got…

I had a slight problem with it. That it's 1961 the war has only been over for 16 years, MIchael O'Neill is 60+, had he been in WWII he'd have been in his 40s, in fact he would have been old enough to serve in WWI if he'd joined up at 18 and gone right at the end. Basically Jake Amberson is more of the right age to…

absolutely, it's a full boss move.

Jon: completely unaware of what was going on around him either due to ego or lack of insight.
Jacq: simpering drag along with few ideas of her own. Yeah fine back story but if I wanted sob stories I'd be watching American Idol.
Wes: actual moron.

13 ie replacement level.

But it could have been more enjoyable. Thus better than it was. A decent cast an nothing else is still a mediocre season. Like Guatamala or Panama.

The fact you have Jon, Jaclyn and Wes on a list of good characters means we shall never see eye to eye on this show.

Yet a season like San Juan Del Sur which has a terrible cast is rescued by the post-merge and the idol play of the winner. without that it's as bad as some of the very worst seasons.

I fully disagree with you the show you want is about Bear Grylls and it's on the Discovery Channel.
Survivor is a game show, that is how it survived, had it been what you want it would have lasted 5 season.

The backbone of the show is a good cast, I don't think that can be argued with but idols just make the job of the contestants slightly more difficult and thus more interesting.
Idols are not just about if they are played successfully, Yul used his to get Penner onside and win the game from a point of weakness, Russell…

Natalie's "Jacq did you vote for who I told you?" is an all-time great moment in a bad season. And the "watching green bananas turn yellow" speech from Paravti is probably one of the most iconic soundbites in the game.