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    Haven't seen it yet, as someone with moderate OCD who started at 7, how reasonably do they treat it? I recognize it's a) a pilot and b) a network sitcom, but it is less than totally cringy?

    Has anyone mentioned where Delores mother is? She's mentioned as an actual character and even called out to, but she's never really there. Why would they create a script about a live mother when she's not there? I dunno, possibly nothing but feels out of place.

    So perhaps with the idea that they are flashbaking to the original game developers (MiB the Younger) and test playing their game? Which parallels well since we saw Hopkins with his younger doppelganger this episode.

    Intriguing!

    He's not raping or pillaging anymore than that dorky guest shooting the bad guy in the pilot was a murderer. He's a game player. He's playing to win, he's playing with a vicious sense of purpose. But he hasn't committed any crimes or wrongdoing to people as far as we know.

    But didn't a host smack around Logan in the bed? It seems if they ask for a "sensation"- a host will deliver, even if it would be considered "violent" otherwise.

    Just because a host says something, doesn't make it so. Marsden is a returning "outsider" every day as well. I'm sure plenty of hosts are "just passing through" in their scripts.

    Those people include me, you don't explain why, but I do think it raises good questions. At what point does involvement shift into engagement shift into complicit shift into the act itself?

    But why would we judge simulated rape with an object to be more sinister or depraved than simulated sex with an object? They are equal facsimiles of consent and consequences.

    Exactly where my mind went also. Retread.

    Why is it evil for him to pay for entertainment but not evil for us to pay to watch it? We're essentially doing the same thing- taking pleasure in watching the facsimile of human suffering.

    There's no consent involved in either the brothel robots or Dolores, thus no actual sinister or depraved behavior.
    That's like saying it's more depraved to eat peaches than plums because peaches exhibit more human like skin. Or to wreck a car (which automatically unwrecks itself) rather than waxing it. It's an

    EVERY TIME!

    So, mid 30s, college grad, white collar work, huge life change- I decided I'd get an "easy" pt job for nights and weekends to save more money for a house, an excuse to get out and meet people and stay busy. I love movies and there's an indie theater nearby, and hiring!
    I really loved it and was surprised indeed that

    "And I may have overstated things, used too much hyperbole, and over-promised, but I never lied and I never said anything I didn't believe at that moment."

    Uh so you think denying some women's right to be seen as "real women" is a good way to show your theory of a certain behavior as bad for "all women?"
    Point out misogyny, but the moment you deny A woman HER consensual choice you lose everything you're trying to fight for.

    That was just so UGH to me- cause when you create a robot to "be a human decoy so real people don't die" of course you keep it as a naked high end western beauty woman.

    Considering one of the establishing scenes the principal clearly states his IQ is testing below levels to attend normal schools, it's more than just an impression. I agree it's a distinct limitation/feature of personality that shifts the rest of his interactions with the world.

    Chechnya!

    Tower Heist was far wittier and amusing than it had any right to be- thanks for the reminder on that one.