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    Dan
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    That's also true, nobody should ever say that.

    I hope you feel better.

    I pick all the battles.

    Being found guilty is the main point. But there at least has to be an investigation….if there are contested theories or outcomes afterward, fine. But people here are going on basically nothing but her word, then saying lying is so rare its not worth considering…..that is a *brutal* calculus for the accused in my

    Something to that, but this is like round 4 of this one so maybe hard to judge if you missed the first couple of rounds. I try my best to stay civil and conversational but definitely fail sometimes.

    OK, despite what you see as implications, I will say straight out as clearly as I can that its not the same as going to jail. Anything I indicated otherwise was just me writing poorly. OK?

    Do you want me to rip you? I don't get it. We're not going to agree, unless you want to just sit here and fight, leave it alone.

    I haven't accused her of anything. Obviously one of them is lying, but I don't have the slightest clue who.

    Not calling someone a rapist until we know he raped someone = amoral.

    And you read sexism into it……haha awesome. Brilliant stuff.

    LMAO, I think the strategy is to just drive the opponent crazy with more and more accusations.

    No I wouldn't say that.

    Review your posts here in the past few minutes. Think about your contributions and how others might see you, and if that's how you would want to be seen.
    Or not, I suppose.

    That's not why you're being hostile. Nobody is perfect, everyone has imperfections. When you understand and accept this and your own imperfections, you can start to make allowances for others.

    That didn't seem necessary.

    Gotcha. My crusade to only call people rapists when they've been proven to be rapists really seems to have ruffled some feathers.

    Something to consider, people who act badly usually feel badly. If someone is acting badly, its probably better to try to make them feel better….or at least not try to make them feel worse. We're all on the same team here. I'm sure we wouldn't be so hostile toward one another in real life. Have a nice day.

    Do I sound scared? Maybe that's coming across poorly.
    My whole deal here is that people are calling this guy a rapist, which is unfounded. It spun far out of control. I don't even know who these musicians are, and couldn't care less about them. My deal is about mob justice, and a guy being sacked for allegations

    Obsessed.

    My goodness! The leaps to conclusions are worthy of gold medals in some demented Olympics.