This episode was extremely refreshing. I'm a little annoyed that they're seemingly going back to WOTW with so few episodes left of the series, but I assume they've got something up their sleeve.

So gad that Grimm is back! And that these discussions are too :)

I loved that scene! Definitely my favorite of the episode. Although I find it super weird how they're glossing over Adalind's return to the group. Nobody is asking her about how she was threatened or blackmailed when last season they seemed not to trust her at all.

Boring I can deal with. Terribly acted, boring, and shoved in our faces, I cannot.

So I mostly loved this episode (except Juliette UGH) but there were a few little things that stood out.

R.I.P meisner. He was never allowed to fully develop and bow we're stuck with a character we wished we didn't have to see 'develop'

I feel like they're trolling us at this point. The more we say we hate her, the more they'll shove her down our throats.

I wish they spent more time on Adalind's reaction to Rachel's death. She seemed horrified that her daughter just showed her the body of a woman she just murdered but never said anything to her about it.

Knowing these writers, the engagement ring adalind is stuck with Will tie her to Renard forever, leaving Nick and Juliette open to 'work out their differences' and inevitably get back together. I knew this was coming as soon as eve was introduced, I just wished it wasn't.

I cosign this.

Right now I don't see Diana siding with Nick over Renard. She seems to be pretty blindly following and idolizing her parents, and I doubt she possesses the capacity to fully understand why Adalind feels the way she does about Renard and the situation that she's in.

I agree. I also don't think it's THAT out of character. The only thing I think is out of character is, like you said, his one-on-one's with Nick and Adalind were really dumb. But other than that, what do we REALLY know about Renard? He's always been shown to be power hungry and self serving. He helps people when it…

I think he overestimated his manipulative abilities because he underestimated both Nick and Adalind's feelings. Renard has always been a character who has been shown to not have as deep feelings as some of the other characters in my opinion.

I thoroughly enjoyed this episode, it made me really excited for the finale. However, I continue to be frustrated that the writers REALLY seem to be going down the path of having 'Juliette resurface'. I hope they realize before they start writing season 6 how monumentally bad of an idea it is, especially if they have…

While watching that I definitely said "how can EVERYONE watching not tell how uncomfortable she is?"

I liked that too. But I'm getting increasingly annoyed with the fact that Julieve seems intent on demonizing Adalind.

It seemed pretty weird just because I think he would be smart enough to realize that Adalind obviously would not be in to it after the way she treated him during their last two meetings.

Okay the Eve-Adalind scene was as ridiculous and annoying as I expected it to be.
Eve is seriously following this growing trend of writers making characters all "badass" and no substance. She's uber powerful! She's super special! She can do no wrong! She can take on anybody! Everybody is scared of her!

The Irony of Nick being annoyed that Adalind lied to him and then the very next scene he's in… he lies to her.

If it's not fake/a dream/a hallucination, I hope Adalind follows up that threat by laughing in her face.