True. But how is Evie to know Kevin isn't just some tattle teller who's also an avid night swimmer using the cinder block as a means of strength training?

That was such a bizarre moment. Seemed to be just convenient writing to help explain Kevin's recovered memories. Because in reality, if the girls are planning to fake their disappearance, it kind of ruins their plan if someone spots them at the very moment they are running off.

Yeah, I caught some Goodfellas Ray Liotta there for a little bit.

That would've been a better reveal. But the writers wanted to build hype for the finale..

Agreed. But people like the escapism of fantasy.

"Also bring back her hot friend"

Glad we cleared up the Mary waking up and having sex issue. No rape charges for Matt.

Well you know how it is with anonymous internet activity. Of course people are going to try and come up with the most clever insult to type because, of course, what's the worst that can happen? You get banned. Oh so scary!

True. You know I expect to get attacked in comment sections with politics or religion. Hell, even sports forums people will attack you for talking trash about their team.

Oh were you being serious? Were you asking a serious question expecting a serious answer? Because I thought a "burned to death fantasy" was a such a ridiculous question it was meant as a joke. So I replied with a joke.

Perfectly put. Agreed on all accounts. While I described the mental/psychological and practical reasons, you perfectly described the evolutionary biological factors.

You're absolutely right. My comedic style is very broad. The bit should've ended with Cliffys line…

Tommy seems like the type of guy that poured hot candle wax on his nipples from time to time. So yeah it's quite possible…

Well said. Manson was a smooth talker. He was a short man with less than average looks, but he had a way with words. He could exude a confidence to his followers that gave the illusion that he had some sort of insight into what was to come. And the copious amounts of drugs only helped to make his followers more docile.

Eight times?! Sounds like you were pausing and watching over and over in slow-mo to try and catch a glimpse of one of the girls breasts in frame?

Yup. Spike TV and Lifetime is literally all you need to know about male female sexuality.

Because the running time of this episode was over 59min. All other ep's have been 57-58min long.

The problem is the definition of "rape fantasy," that's all.

What I described is literally what happened to Tom. He sat there, Meg came up, had sex and left. Interesting you described it as "stock fantasy" when that's precisely what happened to Tom which you also described as rape.

My entire argument is reasonable. If I linked articles you'd just find some excuse to discredit or ignore them, the same way you're trying to discredit me. Believe what you wish about most men's fantasy. Or better yet, do some research and ask a few dozen different men if what I've been saying is accurate. Ask if an…